What's your favorite 2-stroke oil?

I have no recollection of that statement...

 

My parents bought a lot of stihl oil when they got their new ms211cbqsftdddf saw two falls ago. I've run a bit of that, when I can, as well as the Lucas semi synthetic we spoke about earlier. Neither smells great like the amsoil saber.

 

Are you talking 100:1? Yeah, that seems to be a bit too thin. However those variable ratio oil pumps on sleds, and newer tech 2 stroke boat motors get to that figure on their own.

Years ago many saws and other ope had requirements of 33:1, but oil is so much better than it was years ago. Also bearing tech has gotten better as well. 50:1 in those saws seems to work just fine if using better oil. Now using even better oil like saber, you can go to even thinner.

My buddy's stock 460, and his craftsman poulan have done just fine on the saber @80:1 for years.

I personally wouldn't go 100:1 either.

 

So you run saber at 50:1 or 80:1?

My buddy's saws at 80:1 sabre have no soot like that, and even my saw at 50:1 using Stihl or Lucas at 50:1 look cleaner than that pic coreyB posted.

 

This is what I will use next after I use up all the amsoil that I have left. I think I have about a half a quart left. I mix at 32:1 and use it in everything 2 stroke.

 

Heard this was good oil and actually cleaned deposits somewhat. I asked my dealer about it and he didn't have any in stock for me to buy but could order it.

 

I have not had bad results with either of those. I bought a bunch of ref armor off of eBay. 6 pack of the 13oz bottles for like $24

 

Redbull661 on the OPE forum had a pic of a saw that he had ran Schaffer oil and how it cleaned it up. I'm thinking the Lucas oil should clean the internals up also.

 

Sometimes it is matching the oil to your workload. Also tuned properly is a must.

 

I mostly use Sabre at 40:1. Works good snd corporate gives me a nice price break. Last ice rescue I burned through my gallon and ended up using 2 quarts of Trufuel 40:1. Not sure what oil they mix, but it made me puke. I was cutting on an inside corner of an ice flow where the exhaust just kind of accumulated.

 

What

What are you cutting out of the ice?

 

A dead person

 

Ahhh, dang.

That's a lot of fuel to use

Do you know where they are in the ice or are you just randomly hacking up the ice, which is why you use so much fuel?

 

We had the location. We had to move over 30 cubic yards of ice. Washed up under shoreline shelf and it collapsed.

395xp running 9 pin sprocket with 36" hardnose pulling LGX, rakers taken off. Goes through ice in a hurry but she is a thirsty pig.

 

I'm not familiar with Tanaka but I can say I don't see Klotz being used anymore in the type of racing i'm involved with. Klotz was very popular back in the day when open (modified) classes were popular and the reason being was Klotz mixed well with and stayed suspended in methanol and it was a castor blend. Now that race gas is the norm I see mostly full synthetic such as Redline, Motul and Burris Hi-Rev but I do see some with a blend of castor but that is usually in the water cooled engines. I personally wouldn't use oil with castor in a saw. I like the way castor lubricates and cools a 2 stroke but the downside is carbon build-up.

I have an engine dyno (not for saws) and after an engine build or rebuild I break in the engine and part of the process is to seat the ring so the dyno #'s are accurate and in line with what a customer will have on the track. I have found when using full syn it is impossible to break in (seat ring) in a reasonable time so I use any brand of oil that is labeled ashless and air cooled during break-in only. I developed my procedure for break-in involving time, temperature and heat cycles and after that is done I switch to full syn premix and pull the dyno runs. Point being that full syn is reducing wear if it takes longer to seat the ring(s).

I usually use Redline and have never had an engine failure that I could attribute to poor lubrication. I don't think Redline is better or worse than the other brands I've mentioned but I have a source for a great price when I buy it in gallon jugs. I do miss the castor though as the stale fuel was used in my riding mower and tractor and the smell out the exhaust put me in an "at the track" state of mind when mowing or bush hogging.

 

This stuff is what I am currently using but do use the Lucas semi synthetic when I remember to pick it up in town.
40.1
http://shorelinelubricants.com/product/TRAX-infotech.pdf

 

Is Irving Lubricants big where you live? Never seen it around here or ever heard of it on the web? Curious why you run it when there so many heard of oils? Not saying its bad but like i said i havent heard of it and unless its talked about by others in the know or widely used i probably wouldnt use it muself.