Let's see those bikes

Here's some info on it... Carbon fiber frame, subframe, and swingarm, CF wheels, and cf bodywork.

Ducati's 1299 Superleggera Is The Most Powerful Twin-Cylinder Production Bike It's Ever Produced

Too bad most if not all of these will never really be ridden. Rich guys will buy them and use them as art.


So, no KTM there? Honda, yeah, that's a shame as the new cbr1000rr sp variants sound like contenders.


It's really odd, how little info is out there for 2017 models. There's no MSRP for the 2017 Aprilia tuonos, no website updates, and this if it's for most 2017 models. It's hard to try to make decisions when there's not enough info...

 

Did they have any info on the new tuono's as far as MSRP and availability? My only issue with the tuono is sucky mpg. That won't change with the updates to the dash, cornering ABS, and controls. I can deal with that, but only if the MSRP doesn't get jacked. Otherwise I'll get a leftover 2016.

 

Lol. It doesn't work that way for performance vehicles.

Most sport bikes are about half the weight of a full dresser HD. That bike is well under half the weight of a full dresser.

 

Most every bike there had msrp and spec info on it. I did not look at that for the Tuono. I did grab a literature book from Aprillia. It's labeled motorcycles 2016.

 

Yeah, the aprilia USA website still only has 2016's on it. No 2017's, although there is a 2k off MSRP for 2016 tuono's listed now. That's make the tuono factory 15k and the tuono RR 12,800.
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The info and stats are out there on the KTM website for the 2017 super Duke 1290r, it's just the warranty, or lack of, doesn't match the cost.

Yamaha would have to make the fz10SP available in the US to lure me away. The tail section is too ugly. Yeah, I can deal with the transformer front end.

The new gsxr1k sounds interesting, but I want something a little less high strung that I can commute on. Same goes for the zx10r. I don't fit on an r1, not for more than 30 minutes at least. I'd have to sit on a 17 gsxr1k and zx10 to know if those would fit me. Doubt it for both.

Ducati's new 17 supersport sounded good until I saw HP ratings for it. My current bike has more power, so that's out.

I'm pretty well set on the tuono. I just need to know if I'll buy a 16 or a 17 model, and factory or the regular RR. If I go with a 2017, it's probably not going to be the factory version.

 

New Gsxr 1k's were ugly. Seen in person, they look to be evolving toward the old katana look in the fairing where it goes under the bars and touching the tank. All 3 of us agree'd on it too.
Another thing we all agree on, the transformer look is ruining bikes. The FZ's just ain't our thing. Ok, they are good bikes. I get that for sure. I fixed a wrecked fz09 and had to test ride it. I like em, till you get off and look at it. You can't get all giddy when you look at one of these.

If that stirs your soul, we are definitely 2 different people!

You state you're pretty set on a Tuono, if so you will definitely not be disappointed. I speak from 1st hand experience. Rode my friends for a good hour or so @ a very swift pace (7-8/10). Great ergo's, scalpel sharp handling, awesome, awesome motor. Also had to ride a '16 after mounting new Metz and fresh erl. Sooo smooth. And I'd much rather have the best... Ohlins (wait, I do ) that comes on the Factory.

EDIT: The Ducati SuperSport was a great looking/feeling bike. Excellent choice for entry into Ducati ownership. I too have issues with something new having less powa than my '00 twin. Nice bike none the less.

 

The big bang motor on the fz10 is what does it for me. As a twin guy, you'd appreciate that I'm certain. I can deal with the front end. But not that gawddddd awefullll dayglow wheel combo. That's the first one I saw in person. Yuk. The all black is much better looking. The SP model has ohlins front and back. But not available here in the states it appears. Here's the SP we don't get.

The tuono is beautiful to me, but, polarizing to most people. To me it's the right mix of superbike and nekkid bike. I can deal with 35 mpg. The factory ohlins, yeah, I like, but look at the pillion on the factory, and you'll see why, as someone that takes his wife out on the passenger seat from time to time. The rear seat on the factory is a joke, and not even all factory models ( at least 2016 models) have rear pegs. I could always put a RR rear seat on the factory version, but it's a bit more involved than simply plopping a seat on instead of the cowl. The Sachs fork and shock are very good on the RR. Just a little soft at max, but that can be adjusted.

I was a little perturbed that the new tuono didn't have heated grips as an option as more bikes do now, but heated gloves are very good I hear. So that's a moot point.

Mmm. Sexy... But notice the factory version on left has no passenger pegs, and the tail section really isn't passenger friendly. Other than the tail section and ohlins, the RR is nearly exactly the same as the factory. They have the same electronics package, HP /tq, and wheels even.

 

Make sure to budget for a proper pipe. Those engines, like the crossplane yammie, need to be heard. They are almost as intoxicating to listen to as a big sport twin.

 

Heck, that is under the weight of ANY HD (even the Sporty or the new Street 500 which are ~500#). Also 150 pounds less than my old Suzuki C50.

 

You know I'm a big sport twin guy, and IMHO the v4 Aprilias and the crossplane Yamaha 1000 sound better than any twin I've ever heard. Especially that aprilia. Man, hearing the 1000 cc rsv4 version haul a$$ then do the backfire popping and downshift blipping coming into the Moraine Sweep and turn 5 at Road America is pure audio Nirvana. The stock fz10 pipe wood have to go ASAP as it neuters the soundtrack that crossplane motor makes.

I'm told that the stock pipe on the '16 tuono is so good that a slip on really isn't necessary. I'm sure the 17 model with euro4 emissions has put the kibash on that audio assault. I've heard the 16 model and it indeed sounds great. I'd still probably put a pipe on it though, but not before putting a few miles on it first.

Here's the usa 17 tuono prices according to a well informed source. $15k RR
$17.5k factory. If that's right, and probably is, that's a couple hundred over the 16 models.

I'm pretty sold on the aprilia. My local dealer ( yeah, I actually have one ) has leftover 2016 factory and RR models so there's choices.

 

My bikes for the last few years.
2007 Yamaha Royal Star Tour Deluxe



My 2011 HD Road Glide Ultra on the Pig Trail in Arkansas


My present ride, best bike I have ever owned and no longer being made. My 2013 Victory Vision on the road to a 50 year high school reunion in SoCal. This was a rest stop and view point a bit west of Denver.


and the view I had stopped for

 

I just heard yesterday Polaris pulled the plug on Victory motorcycles. Rumored all the resources went to Indian.

 

Great pics btw. I'm really jones'n for a nice long ride.

 

I saw that also. Shame. I wasn't a big fan, but hate to see any motorcycle line go away.

 

Yep, they pulled the plug on Monday at 0830 Central time. They have plenty of motorcycle investment in Indian and the folks who designed the Victory are moving over to Indian so maybe they will put out an Indian in the next few years that has many of the strong points of the Victory line. My Victory is a very comfortable ride that takes power upgrades like a champ. My mostly stock Vision can walk away from almost any HD out there, including the screaming chickens, while it is comfortable enough to put in 700 mile days day after day and still ride out from my motel room to get supper.
In a little over 3 years I have over 30k miles on mine and it has been to Niagara Falls Ontario, Orlando Florida twice and Newport Beach California. I am now in a quandary. I came to Victory from riding my HD Road Glide Ultra because I did not like all of the visits I had to make to my HD dealer for repairs under warranty. Most of the so called metric bikes do not have a high enough weight capacity for me to ride 2-up with luggage for more than a day or two. The Indian line may have lots of "heritage" but it is a short bodied/short reach bike like the HDs are and I do not really want to go there again. Meanwhile I just love my Vision but realize that any trip I take now needs to take into account that there will be zero on-road repairs available if I have any trouble at all. That is not as big a deal as it would have been with my HD but it still means that I feel naked out there on the road.
I am now starting to look around at my options. I need to find another bike that has the load capacity of my Vision, the relatively simple design of my 106/6 engine, the reliability of my Victory, a nice long reach configuration that pretty much eliminates things like the Gold Wing, the wind protection of my fixed fairing that even my HD shark did not have and the rigid enough backbone to make it a joy to ride in the twisties (which is very different from the HD's too flexible backbone).

 

They pulled the plug on the Victory brand on the 10th. Yes, it's true they'll devote all of their resources into Indian and the slingshot. When Polaris started Victory, the Indian name was owned by another entity. Now that Polaris bought out Indian, it seemed that it was a foregone conclusion that Polaris didn't need 2 cruiser motorcycle brands.

I was hoping that Victory would morph into an American sport bike manufacturer. Who knows? I think Polaris will still enter the sport bike game.

 

Day late, dollar short. Sorry.

 

How so? Nobody was around at 8:30 at night. News sources first reported the closure on the 10th when business days resumed.

 

It was 0830 on the 9th, not the 10th.

 

Exactly. It was reported on the 10th in the am, when news sources came back to work.