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Madison Door Gasket

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Kimberly, Jan 10, 2017.

  1. yooperdave

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    Well, thats just it. I can't tell.
     
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    Judging by the pix of the interior of your stove, you're not getting any air leaks. Nice clean bricks............not black and sooty. Good, clean burns IOW's!!!

    Can you move the glass in and out at all??? If not; leave well enough alone, as it looks like you have no air leaks. If yes, then repair.

    Also.............don't buy the replacement gaskets from the hardware store. I've read here and "elsewhere", that the ESW gaskets are denser than the ones at the local hardware store and compress too much, and will not seal. Buy replacement gaskets from ESW, and get a tube of stove cement from the local hardware joint.

    If the gasket is loose in just a spot or two; get some stove cement and fix it.
     
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  3. Highbeam

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    I would expect a leaky door gasket to lead to overfire, white bricks, and very clean combustion. In other words, the opposite of what you just said! See, the air leak allows additional combustion air to enter the stove just as would happen when you open the draft farther.
     
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    There should be soot or smoke stains near the air leak if this were the case. Just like when a door gasket is failing, you get the stain around the affected area.
     
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    Would this leak being up in the airwash area matter? It's above the airwash plate so there is no smoke up there to stain.
     
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    Thats exactly where my door gasket "failed". Directly above the air wash. Thats the reason I found it because of the stain.

    Its not a big deal, just replace the gasket if needed.

    Still haven't heard if the glass is loose, etc. etc.

    Probably installing a whole new stove!!!! :rofl: :lol:
     
  7. mike holton

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    have you contacted my office yet? I do not have enough info from your profile in here to find you in my system. if you have not today would be a great day to call with the warm couple days phone traffic to my CS department has been very light with far shorter than average hold times. number is 800-245-6489 we are open from 8-5 eastern today
     
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    I emailed customer support at ESW and sent photos attached to the email.
     
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    Sorry folks, not seeing all these replies and I have been sick with a bad head cold for the last few days. No fire in the stove now but I did build one last night because I was cold.

    From what I am seeing, the glass is not tall enough in height; perhaps cut wrong. The bottom clips are holding the glass in place. The top clips are in place, I did check that with the stove cold. However, the top clips are not holding the glass, and as you can see, the gasket at the top slipped out of position over time. This is the first real use of the stove because I got it at the end of winter last year if you all recall. Probably best to buy a stove at the beginning of a heating season for this reason. My sister purchased the stove for me; still paying her back bit by bit.
     
  10. Kimberly

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    Yes, the glass is loose at the top where the gasket slipped out of place. I was nervous about using it and I built small fires last night to keep warm and let the fire burn out before going to bed. At the moment it is not that cold in the house so there is no fire in the stove. 68F in the lounge.
     
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    Don't be mean.
     
  12. mike holton

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    can you PM me the e mail address you sent those pictures in so I can have someone pull the e mail? i'll see if I can get this corrected quickly
     
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    I think from the start; as I cleaned the glass, expansion from fires, etc, it allowed the gasket to slip out of position at the top.
     
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    mike holton ; Mike, while you are here, can you tell me if this is the correct position for me to monitor stove top temperature for the stove, the manual was not too clear on this.

    sst_position.jpg
     
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    ok, got your PM's and I have the emails you sent me, im going to do a bit of looking through my system, did you send a registration in for the stove? if not I may need to call you, i'll let you know via PM in which case im going to need a phone number to call you. if I have you in my system I can take care of it without needing the number in which case I will let you know status as well

    as for the thermometer, where you have it will be a relatively accurate reading (remember these things aren't dead on to the degree anyway and give an approximation of actual temp)
     
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    Mike thinks that the glass was cut wrong for the door and they are going to send a glass and gaskets. I am going to get my brother-in-law to help me with the repair. Thanks Mike for your help in this; it is really appreciated.
     
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    I'm glad they are taking care of you. Pretty impressive in the wood stove world. Couple things you might check after you get the glass out is to lay a straight edge on the gasket surface to see if it is reasonably flat. It appears the gasket goes in a cast channel in the door. There are four bosses cast in that appear to be for the retainer bolts. You might want to make sure the bolts are not bottoming out in the blind holes preventing an acceptable clamp load. Good luck!
     
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    Thanks for the info. I was worried about cracking the glass when installing; one reason I want to get help with this. Mike said I would not have to worry about cracking the glass so maybe it is designed to bottom out on purpose to prevent this; I don't know. At this time I am touching nothing until the replacement parts arrive which will be next week since this is already Friday.
     
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    Still can't recognize humor when you see it???:rofl: :lol:

    Not all attempts at humor are successful, right?:picard:
     
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    That seems to be a problem on forums, some people dont like me (another forum) due to my humor.
     
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