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Revamping my stacks

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  1. DNH

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    I decided to convert my wood room into a pantry and make less of a mess down stairs (happy wife = happy life); but even more so it will cut out handling the wood 4 extra times. I've seen several people use pallets my question is how well do the pallets hold up (off the ground) and any great ideas about building side boards to stack against as I plan on moving the loaded pallets 2x once from splitting area to stacks then stacks to the house.

    So far I've modified 5 pallets and each one has been slightly to significantly different my goal is to make it more user friendly and make sure it will hold up. I try to use 40x48" pallets but have a few 40x40" what I'm doing is ripping a 2x4" in half long ways 5' long for the uprights about 25-30" apart screwed and nailed (pre-drilling holes to reduce splitting) to the side of the pallet then a stabilizer across the top on each side and another stabilizer across the top in the middle to prevent the upright sides from spreading (I'll take pictures tomorrow) I can stack ~50 cubic feet on one pallet and the tractor moves it easily. I'm trying to do this cheaply and use supplies I have on hand. I don't mind overbuilding something but really want to know what is going to fail first!

    The pallets will set on treated 3x3" posts resting on cinderblocks and stacks are covered with old barn tin I expect to burn the walnut I'm cutting now in 12-24 months, I have ~2 cord elm that was getting punky when cut last summer if its dry enough I will burn it in 17/18
     
  2. Horkn

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    Sounds like you have it figured out. Any pics?:ithappened:
     
  3. Eric VW

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    You need your eyes checked?:rofl: :lol::rofl: :lol::rofl: :lol::rofl: :lol::rofl: :lol:
     
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    Nope. All good here.

    I'm keeping my eyes on my tarp on the stack at the patio. 55 mph winds are distracting. ;)
     
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    Understood, Mr. Magoo....:binoculars:
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    Bad wind....bad.:mad:
     
  6. NH mountain man

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    I don't see any pics, and I got my eyes checked.:binoculars:
     
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    Sounds good..... The one point you sound like you've got covered is keeping the skids off the ground... swags , if I remember correctly, he mentioned he originally had frozen skids to the ground when he first started doing that type of pallet moving with his tractor...
     
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    I have been using IBC totes, however I recently ran out of empty totes so this is what I have started building.[​IMG]
    I use heavy plastic pallets from work for the base,
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    Make six pegs to locate the sides,
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    I nail them to the end frames which are skids that come on top of pallets of wrap, and secure the sides with five boards from a disposable wooden pallet.
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    Then fill with Aussie hard wood!
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    And add a roof from my IBC,s
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    Then it's moved out to season with its friends.
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  9. HarvestMan

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    Wow! You have the best pallet and top covering setup I have ever seen. :salute::thumbs:

    And the Aussie hardwood is beautiful!
     
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    Well leoht pictures are both beautiful and discouraging because I really can't top that.

    Elevate the pallets on bricks or patio blocks so they won't freeze to ground easily, adds airflow, and the pallets will last longer. I get an easy 3 years out of pallets keeping them off the ground this way. I am about 4 years ahead, so I won't be able to tell you if they will last to the 6 year mark until about 3 more years...

    I wonder if you could use rebar as uprights (4 corners, drilled into the beefy part of the pallet), and then slip over a pallet on each side, would look like a U. Easy, fast, and pretty damm cheap. ?
     
  11. DNH

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    IMG_1212.JPG We had 30-50 mph wind here all day only way I got out and did any cutting was it was tops in the edge of the field. For most of a cord after work will try to get it split and stacked tomorrow.

    Wind was so bad it blew over a portajohn at the office and hit a car! I laughed all day thinking about the joke about the hillbilly outhouse!

    Here is the pic
     
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    I use a bunch of different pallets and as long as the floor is in good condition and nailed down all is good.
     
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    Black Walnut? I thought that is gold to a sawmill.
     
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    If the logs are big enough. ..
     
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    Is that red gum?
     
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    No those totes have stringy bark eucalyptus stacked in them. It's not as good as Red gum. My Red gum is in the shed!
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    The stack beside the totes is Lemon scented gum (my favourite smelling wood) and golden wattle.

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    30cm splits ?
     
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    Yes most. Some get a little longer and the uglies can be all sizes.

    Its traditional in Australia for firewood to be in foot blocks, and most stoves here are built to take 12-14" lengths NS if I load EW my larger stove will take a 20" I just find that 12" 30cm is a good size and burns well in my inbuilt's.

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  19. DNH

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    Neatest stacking method I've ever seen! Now if we could get your stacks and bogydave to meet the offspring would be perfect!!!
     
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    Actually rarely. But if you have a good one it can be worth a lot. Sadly in this area most walnut are found in yards and occasionally in fence rows or ditch rows. None of those places is where sawmills want the logs to come from because they are magnetic. That is, they tend to draw all sorts of nails and screws into the trees and that is not good for the saws. People used to ask us what they could get from a good walnut and we'd tell them a very good fire.
     
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