Madison Door Gasket

In another thread I noticed that the door gasket had fallen down at the top of the door. This morning the door was cool enough that I could touch the glass. I noticed it moved back and forth. I pushed the door gasket back in place with my fingers and it slid easily. Now I am concerned about the glass in the door falling out. I checked the manual and see that the glass is held in place with four tabs. The stove is the Madison from England Stove Works. Has anyone had the glass to come loose on the 30-NC made by the same company? I have yet to contact the manufacturer about the issue. Below is a photo showing the door gasket drooping down at the top of the door.

 

are the screws holding the tabs snugged up? they do not need to be super torqued but should be snug enough that the tabs will not move if you push on them.

 

OK, I just read the manual again, there are four 5/16 screws holding the glass in. I will see if they are snug, will have to let the stove cool a bit before I can do this.

 

yeah definitely, too hot with a fire in it to even think of messing with the door

 

The glass gasket on the 30 hasn't been a problem yet. I've checked the screws/bolts a few times, and they're never loose.
I may change the gasket this spring or before next burn season though, since it'll be 3 years years on 3-18 since I put the stove in service.
Since the gasket has come down like that, you'll likely need to loosen those top screws/bracket and reattach everything. Glass gasket generally has adhesive on the back side so it'll stay in place while installing, although it won't be there anymore now that you've used the stove a while. Should still be serviceable.

 

Slide into it's proper place before snugging down those top screws. Not too tight, don't want to snap them, but tight enough that the gasket is pinched.

 

Haven't replaced the door or window gasket on my 13NC yet..............5th burning season on it.

 

Good to see you here mike holton , as I think she is the only one here with a Madison, and we'd all be guessing. Good guesses, of course, but guessing all the same.

 

I am going to have to wait for the morning as the stove and door were too hot. Therefore, I threw another log on the fire since it is still cold here.

 

Kimberly, you could use an oven mitt or a welders glove to hold the door while checking the screws/bolts if needed.
I do think though, that you might be better off waiting until you can actually loosen things up and reinstall if that's the problem.

 

The stove is cool now, no fire. However, it appears that I have to remove the door gasket; how is that held in place? Do I need to worry about gasket glue for the door? Also, I am seeing about a 1/4 inch; 0.6 cm, gap between the glass and the door. I know that you have to allow for the different coefficient of expansion between cast iron and ceramic glass; just wanted to be sure the glass is the correct size. I contacted England Stove Works about the loose glass in the door. This is the first real season of using this stove as I got it very late in the season last year.

Here are photos:

 

Just so you are aware, ESW has come to help you right here on your very own FHC thread (hows that for service?!)...calling Mr mike holton for more Madison maintenance...

 

Usually, that gasket wraps around/over the edge of the glass. As long as the glass is pushed against the gasket and door, it should seal.
The bracket should sandwich the gasket between itself and the glass, as well.

 

Maybe I'm seeing this wrong, but it looks like the glass gasket is fine, and the door gasket is the one that's loose. Can you take a pic from a little distance?
The door gasket should ride (unless this stove is different) in a groove or channel, and there should be some black goo (hi-temp caulk) in that channel.
The glass gasket is tubular, whereas the glass gasket is pretty flat.....maybe 1/8" thick or so.

 

I know nothing about the Madison ... but it looks OK to me, just a cosmetic issue. If so, you can deal with it in the summer.

 

So would this mean a complete dissemble of the glass and gasket from the door?

 

Let me take a shot of the complete door from the inside.

 

However, if it is possible the glass would fall into the firebox while burning I would have a serious situation on my hands. The house is a bit on the cool side now and would like to build a fire. I really don't want to have to turn up the electric heat as it would drive my electrics to $350.00.

 

I think I am following you here, the glass rides against the gasket on the sides but is no longer doing so at the top. Photos will be following this comment.

 

You should be able to quite easily see the brackets that hold the glass gasket in place. Usually one along each edge, and there may be more than one screw for each.
It's an extremely easy fix, even if you take everything apart.
The easiest way would be to pull the door off (should just lift straight up after opening the door a bit), then lay it down. Pull the brackets, glass, then reset the gasket and reinstall the brackets.

Even doing it for the first time, it shouldn't be more than a few minutes.