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Discussion in 'Pellet Stoves, Pellet Fireplaces, Pellet Furnaces' started by Kevin1024, Jan 1, 2017.

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  1. ttdberg

    ttdberg Pellet Pig

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    I'm afraid if the installer is going to modify the install, he is going to do it on your dime. Not only the parts, but the labor too. You could get really, really lucky and get free labor out of it, but I seriously doubt it. Keep in mind his mindset when he did the original install - he thought this was a fine install job. If he is forced to come back out and fix it, he is going to do it grudgingly and charge you for it. Not that I agree with any of that, but it's the unfortunate reality these days...
     
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    I know of folks with long OAK runs up chimneys that exceed the max stated length, I also know that those folk had no crimps and straight runs with no bends. As long as you do not foul the intake air they generally will work fine, I know of folks with both short runs of both vent and OAKs that didn't pay attention to separation and vent opening above OAK opening that had nothing but trouble with bad burns and CO alarms going off. I try to stay away from saying things are cast in concrete when it comes to venting of any type. There are to many variables in play in any one installation. Suffice it to say YMWV your mileage will vary. As long as KEVIN1024 gets the installer to properly clean up the mess I'll be happy.
     
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    Even a leaky pipe that was not sealed properly with silicone?
     
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    Thanks Smokey. I will say it was a challenge to get the OAK pipe up and out of the stack. It was a tight fit. And it was so high. I could never rule out they kinked it on the way up.
     
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    Hey Dexter have you learned anything since you got involved with your roasters?
     
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    Out of curiosity, was this the dealer's guys that did the install or does he sub it out to someone? In other words, does he have in house employees that do the installs?
     
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    What did they use for insulation, some can act as an air seal which is one function the block off plate provides if done correctly. Some like fiberglass acts as a air filter and really doesn't do the job required.
     
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    Subbed it out.
     
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    Not sure. They were taking pieces of insulation and using a pole to stuff it up in the chimney.
     
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    Go back to the dealer and b!tch that his sub did a shoddy job!! Show him pic's of the crap the sub did and your not happy............... He needs to have this corrected!

    If the dealer balks contact the BBB and lodge a complaint!!
     
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    That detail could be your saving grace in this saga. If the dealer were to come out and see what the installer did with his own eyes, he will immediately know it was done wrong and should take the responsibility to get it corrected (himself or using a different installer) at little to no cost to you. Additional parts like a tee are likely going to cost you (you would have paid for them if it was done properly in the first place anyway), but the labor should be covered 100% by any dealer worth their salt.
     
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    Maybe not, Dealer may have figure it in the initial estimate, But the sub may not have used it?
     
  13. Lousyweather

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    exactly
     
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    I give up... just get it fixed. There is nothing that any of us can do for you. Arms, hands, and wrists don't work long distance. If I could, I'd slap a condemned tag on the setup. But I can't.
     
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    possibly the dealer has no idea what kind of job this sub is doing? Might actually be doing the dealer a service by letting them know.....
     
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    There's no way of knowing what the inspector will or will not impose....completely up to him/her. In most municipalities, they aren't even liable if they miss something and something goes wrong......which is why in some cases they aren't much good....no liability, they just take your money.
    FWIW, there should be no spillage of flue gas into the home on a new installation.
     
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    As in OAK's? I have them on everything now. I wouldn't be without them.

    The Pellet furnace has a 6 ft run of 3", wood stove has a 6 ft run of 3", and the Enerzone is using Selkirk DT (OAK inside of vent pipe) that has a 5 ft run.

    Unless you are referring to something else?
     
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    He was cranky bear that day :D
     
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    Actually Mr. Dexter sir, I was thinking more along the lines of airflow and the importance of keeping the stove(s) as free of ash as possible. Remember you were the grasshopper once.

    Behave yourself Steve, I'm a cranky bear nearly all the time. Nothing special about that day.
     
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    :rofl: :lol: