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Stray Cat Trap, Neuter/Spay, Release

Discussion in 'Everything Else (off topic)' started by wildwest, Nov 4, 2016.

  1. WeldrDave

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    They like smelly sardines also!
     
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    I don't have to watch my cat 24 hours a day to know if Fuzzy has killed a bird or not. He wouldn't eat all the feathers - and none have ever been present in the run - let me make this clear - he isn't running thru the neighborhood, or even over most of the property, he is in a 40x20 run that I walk thru everyday so I would know if he is catching and killing birds.

    I have had other cats that did kill, and Rita would love to but hasn't figured out how to catch anything yet (and there is something wrong with her back so she doesn't jump vertically very well and doesn't attempt to do so very often). Fuzzy just isn't interested since it hasn't been a necessity.

    And let me also be clear that I am not advocating for cat colonies. I am just saying that an absolute all or nothing statement is probably not entirely accurate.

    And yes, if I were let loose in the wild, I too would go into hunt mode :).
     
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    That's awesome and your a very responsible owner.
     
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    I don't disagree that feral cats are a huge problem, but I have little use for statistics like this. I recently read in NY Conservationist magazine, where human homes are also responsible for approximately a billion bird deaths annually. So if you want to shoot cats that's fine, but this sort of justification probably won't "fly" if you go burning your neighbor's "bird killer" house down.

    One of my neighbors is a "crazy cat lady" (any animals really). Actually nobody lives there now, because the house got condemned last year, and she actually had to go to the nut ward for evaluation, all over the animal hoarding. Anyway her daughter recently dropped off a load of unwanted kittens there. Two of them followed my girlfriend home on Saturday while she was walking the dog, and it's not the first time that's happened. We've seen her feed them exactly once, and last week we even dropped off a bag of cat food.

    I wouldn't let her keep them cause we already have a couple pets and I don't like cats. So she took a couple cute pics of them and put them up on Facebook, and within about 2 hours they had new homes. The first person asked "if they were free", to which I suggested she should charge like $40... :rofl: :lol: But in the end, we provided a bag of cat food along with them, just to make extra sure they would go bye-bye.

    [EDIT] The estimate for bird deaths due to cats is more in the range of 1/2 billion. Source: Causes of Bird Mortality - Sibley Guides
     
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    Shawn, I don't disagree with your statement either. And, "WHO" truly knows the real numbers, so that can be beat to death:deadhorse: I got my numbers from the Audubon society and a few studies. Regardless, birds are killed by airplanes, wind turbines, cars, smoke and many other things. "But" a bird will not usually venture into a territory that "appears" to be detrimental to them, so they will find a safe haven if you will. Cats will take full advantage of these landing spots, one particular area here is the protected sanctuaries for the piping plover, cats and "only" cats have prayed on these birds for years, they land and nest on the beaches and the cat is their only predator with the exception of the fox. They are on the endangered list and counties have gone to "watches" for cats here. I do agree with your statement and the numbers are all over the place, but lets just sum it up that they are a problem.
     
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    So far, 2 cats trapped, altered, and let go again out here. (chances of being adopted as a "barn cat" are low). 2 litters from those wild cats sought help from kind neighbors (guessing similar to what our 1/2 wild cat, Lila, did with us) that are feeding and the animal welfare league will alter the kittens too at a discount for those neighbors:) while being advertised for adoption. Meanwhile another home a few miles away said she has 8 wild cats that come to her barn that she feeds, thats a future project.

    For now I am still trying to trap the elusive white cat with black spots that we see once in a while, but tears up our trash bags in the dumpster then the wind blows our paper trash all around. Funny how he likes the old gross food in my dumpster but not when its in the trap:doh:. Yep, he will be tied one way or another, this place is just so harsh for any animal, especially cats! Too bad, the black cat that looked similar to my elusive white cat has not been seen for months. I thought he belonged to a neighbor when I moved here, I think I was wrong. Now I am questioning that the Black cat, the elusive white cat, and out cat Lila all have similar, ok, almost identical markings. I will never know, obviously all the cats out here are interbred. But, think I am doing the right thing.
     
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  7. JustWood

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    Cooked chicken bones wrapped in tin foil make a kryptonite bait. Especially chicken wing bones from the watering hole down the road. the tin foil just adds to the suspense.
    The tin foil keeps them in the trap longer thrashing around like a kid opening x-mas presents . More time to trip trap.
     
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    I have been trying the Sardines to entice the feral cats into the trap with some success. But the one I want, the one that keeps using my gardens as it's own personal toilet has evaded capture. It's a huge Tom and actually waddles when he walks! The thing about the sardines is, the feral cats have shown they like the oil they're packed in a lot more than the sardine itself. Such a waste! Since I too like sardines, I figure I'll eat at least 3 of the 5 in the tin making sure to leave as much of the oil as possible. I need to pick up a few more tins because I ate the last ones.:emb:

    I'll also be trying the chicken bone wings in foil JustWood mentioned, but I'm not sure they'll like the bones from the HOT wings that I like. Never can tell though.
     
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    Hoo boy! lucky you didn't get caught in the trap you set out when you had those sardines! :rofl: :lol:
     
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    Boy, I'd sure have lots of 'splainin to do! :rofl: :lol:
     
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    wildwest I hope you don't come across anything like this!

     
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    Maybe add catnip to the mix! Even age some old meat until you can smell it rotting and sprinkle with catnip. Really I think any kind of smelly meat would work. And add a couple of smallish piles of catnip on the side. That should entice the tom into the trap!
     
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    Elusive white and black cat *almost* trapped tonight, no dice.

    And yep Dave, I worked at a humane society with cats like that :bug: Miserable for both us and the terrified cats. Even worse, one of the vaccinations was intramuscular, no way to get it in the thigh of a wild cat, needle had to got in a neck muscle while restraining it from tearing us apart. Either way, I want to see all of the out here altered at some point in time. I need to return the borrowed trap soon, so I hope we can catch the white and black tom before then. Next step is borrowing the trap again for the neighbor down the lane before more litters of kittens this spring.
     
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    wildwest have you considered other lures like Cat-Man-Do Bobcat Lure? That might be enough to entice the white and black cat into the trap. But I would highly recommend the Catnip for sure. Maybe some smelly fish like the sardines (ehh) or Mackerel as bait. Add some catnip and it may give it up and go into the trap. What cat can resist catnip? I did manage to trap the huge, elusive, nasty, garden pooper using Mackerel sprinkled with catnip, and a couple of small piles of the catnip on the side. Once it got a wiff of the combination, he just walked right on in. He didn't care for sardines with mackerel, sardines, any kind of canned cat food (I tried at least a dozen different flavors of canned cat food including one with cheese, hot sausage, hot wing bones, and bacon flavored Spam.) It was the mackerel with a little juice from the can, and the catnip that won him over.

    Most of the time he kept his distance though on occasion he would poke his head in to see what I was offering as bait.

    I had ordered a bigger trap and some of the Cat-Man-Do lure for him, so I may just send the trap back when it arrives since there is no need for it now.
     
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    Try dog kibble - laugh all you want but I've had several cats that wouldn't eat, or even feign interest in canned food, tuna, eggs (in any form) etc, but would at least nose up to the dog food.
     
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