Got a $10 gift card for Gander Mountain in the mail the other day. Stopped by the local store to try to spend it but, even with some free money, everything seemed sooooo overpriced. While I was looking around for something to buy I saw/overheard some real head-shakers. Before anyone gets bent out of shape...I'm at least 75% redneck. Redneck #1 and redneck #2 were debating long and hard whether or not a 1/2" X 12" AR500 target would hold up to his AK. After they left I looked at the tag and it said RIGHT ON THE TAG that it was good up to a 338....and it was $130..... Must be a mean AK if they think it might pack more punch than a 338 . Redneck #3 and redneck #4 bought 1,000 rounds of Federal 5.56 for $449.xx after tax which they financed by signing up for the in-store credit card. No discount....just 0% for 6 months or something. Same thing shipped to your door can be had for $348 online. Overpaying for ammo you can't afford. LEO #1 is inexplicably coon fingering a giant used Taurus 9mm for his "personal carry gun". Don't they get a wicked good discount on Glock stuff? Wondering if that was an actual LEO....but he did have a mustache so... I ended up getting some CLP and patches for $1.90 but the best deal was the free entertainment.
Isn't that all part of the fun when shopping? People watching? Especially at a sportsman store. There are some awsome redneck stories in the "out there" gun shops. The Mrs went yesterday to buy some 22 on sale at the LGS. Salesman said girls cant pull back Glock slides to a guy shopping for his mrs....my Mrs waited for said salesman to turn aeound and and corrected him. This is the same said salesman that always greets her with a "heey giirrl".
Those big gun shops are always worth a chuckle. I'm amazed at the lack of firearms knowledge people have.
Well sales was/is partly correct- not the slide but on a double action pistol ( not a revolver) the trigger pull is long and very heavy, hence extremely difficult for a lot of people to accomplish firing the unit with any semblance of accuracy- on the first shot- being semi auto the second is a bit better due to auto load of the second round. Still a 6-8 pound trigger pull is a lot to ask of the avg. person. So the complaint I always heard, back when I was smith is- unit shoots low and right if right hand- low and left for a southpaw on average- course there is nothing wrong 99% of time with the unit- it is the operator. Spent a lot time teaching in this line also- quite challenging is the best way to describe it.
Exactly a 4 year old could manipulate say a g42. If it were a colt Python or similar I could agree. Imo glocks have one of the better factory triggers. My Mrs is 5"3 small hands and can run(loves full frame 1911s)full size pistols. Its all false gunshop/Internet macho crap of a bafoon at the LGS is the point.
The size of the pistol doesn't have much to do with how hard it is to action the slide...the caliber counts most. A .380 is always going to be easier than a .45 because of the recoil spring. The heavier the slide the less the spring has to compensate...and make it easier to pull back. If you can't get a good enough grip between your finger and thumb then they should try overhanding it. A lot of people who can't do this: Could probably do this:
Thats true, and is a fair comparison of how I could but don't run the slide compared to the mrs. But I was comparing (should have been more clear) running the slide AND trigger pull In response to quoted text like the double action and uncomfortable feeling of a colt Python. (Double action heavy trigger) A well run in .45 Glock is just as easy to pull back as a new unfired g42. Which is the other thing. After a few hundred rounds trying a new gun at the counter is totally different than something broken in. Numb cold or wet hands can still overhand a slide. Again and to your point, part of sales if the girl can't use two fingers have her overhand it!
I agree. I recently shot a .44 mag wheel gun of some sort. It had a 4" barrel and kicked like a mule. Double-action was not a good idea. The trigger pull was heavy and felt like it took forever...plenty of time to think about how bad my hand was going to hurt when it went bang. This is a bit of an extreme scenario, but the same still applies.
I swore years ago I'd never go back to Gander Mountain because of their ridiculous prices... Everything we looked at was way too high. Their meat processing stuff was your typical chinese made equipment, coolers from all the usual names, guns, ammo, all too high. All in a warehouse style setting with open bar joist roofing and duct work exposed. No fancy wood or taxidermy or high end clothes like the other big overpriced fishing and hunting stores. I like to see stores make a profit and stay in business but last year our Field and Stream had IMR rifle powders at $45 per pound.
Yea, that's gouging. Full blown. I can get those same powders in the mid $20's locally....not even online prices!
I have several local gun shops near me yet when IU wanted some MTM ammo boxes I went to GM. I found one on the shelf and went to the counter to ask about them having more in the back. Only one clerk at the counter so I stood there a bit while I assumed he was waiting on a big boobed blonde bimbo. Tiring of waiting I take a walk a slow one around the store looking at other stuff. Back to the counter and this guy is still talking with the BBBB. Screw it and go pay for the one box I had got, was asked if I had found every thing OK I said no and they said they could get what I wanted if in stock, I told them I had already spent a hour longer than I wanted to there so for get it. I stop at Williams Gun Sight on the way home and buy all the rest of the boxes I wanted, 58centsmore than GM. Al
When I was in college a buddy and I would go hang out at the Bass Pro gun counter quite a bit for fun (yeah, I'm a redneck as well). I probably knew 1/10th about firearms then compared to what I know now, but it was still entertaining to listen to both the shoppers and "expert" guys behind the counter. My favorite memory is a guy telling his buddy to forget about buying the Remington 870 he wanted because all pump shotguns are crap. When pressed for a reason, he explained that autoloaders were MUCH more reliable, because with a pump shotgun "you always forget to pump them".
I shoot competitively and I love walking into a store looking at ammo or something looking for something specific and the salesperson will point to something else and say "these are just as good" Ex. I prefer to shoot a specific version of Winchester AA's, Heavy Target 3 Dram 7 1/2 shot. I have been to a store where the clerk will point to a box of pheasant loads in 4 shot and tell me these are on sale this week since we don't have what your after. First off, there is about double the recoil and the load is over my legal amount of shot, powder and speed but they are "pretty much the same". I much prefer dealing with a specialty retailer or distributor when it comes to getting good info and usually better pricing. I have also talked a customer out of something a salesperson tried to sell them once they walked away and explained how they were wrong and pointed them in the right direction. It is also kinda funny if you tell them you shoot and then they want to know what kind of gun etc. I have had salespeople kinda glass over but pretend to recognize the brands of ammo or guns that I shoot or am looking for.
I shot competitively for many years just about every type of discipline even won a few state and regional games, shotgun, rifle, pistol, Black powder. If ya want a real hoot , shooting trap or skeet with a black powder fowling piece ( muzzel loader) under the lights at night. I do not spend any time in the gun shops- some of the information bandied about is just way off kilter in more ways than one. An acquaintance bought herself a pistol- good brand not cheap- told me the sales guy said it was perfect for her- uh huh, she couldn't pull the trigger ( double action ) I went back to the store with her and got her a small revolver in the same caliber- that she could actually use, and then taught her how to use it. Shes a pretty good shot with it now. First shot counts after that likely won't be time for a second or 17 more. An experienced person can draw and fire from a holster in about 2.5 seconds, takes an antagonist about 1.5 to cover 10 ft.- nuff said.
I was at Gander Mountain today. Before I got out of my car I noticed a black Cadillac come from behind the building. A black Suburban with light bars was on its tail with guys in the back with the windows down. It looked like an older man in the front passenger seat of the Caddy. I'm not for sure who it was but I have an idea. Then this afternoon I was in the Jimmy Johns drive through and I saw them again. I was hoping Jimmy Johns would be freaky fast (but they weren't) so I could get a better look at who was in the car. I managed to get some crappy pics.
It seems like everytime I am at gander mountain there is a tree hugger there. The last few times I have been there I saw a Tesla P85d, prius, and insight. There is never a shortage of rednecks. It can be educational.
