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  1. DexterDay

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    Thats the difference between 4wd and 2wd. Also, the more surface area allows for better floatation (won't sink into snow so far / because it does weigh less) and because of the added surface area, that would equate to better ttraction? ? No?

    They make these systems for trucks. Same principle applies here.
     
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  2. clemsonfor

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    Certain times yes and others no. Thats why an empty dully gets stuck in wet grass. To much surface area that it can't put the power to the ground. If it floats and doesnt blog up it will be better but certain times I think it would need more weight for the increase in flow station to put the power to the ground ?I dunno ? DDoesnt matter I never will have it or the snow to worry.
     
  3. Stinny

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    Been fun to read all of your thoughts on the tracks. I watched these track systems evolve over many years before biting the bullet. Yup, they're way too much $$$ but we made payments for 4 years on it and is now "ours". Set of tracks are about $4000 alone. Should have at least a 500cc machine. We dual reg it for winter and summer use. That way, we can ride on Maine's snowmobile trails too. Have tried to get as much use from the rig as we can. Dex has made comments that sound as though he's been around em plenty.

    It is not a snowmobile, that's for sure. And, with the tracks on, it's not an ATV either. More like a slow tank. It does well "floating" on top of deep snow and does well getting me out of places I'd still be in with a snowsled. But, rides on it while fun, are short. You can go for a while but we don't. 3-5 miles would be plenty. The nature of the beast is they all lose speed but gain power in the drive setup… about 1/3 difference. If my speedometer says 21 I'm actually going closer to 14-15 mph. Yep, it uses more fuel too. We use it to get to our little cabin for winter overnights and doing winter work there. Steering is an issue with this setup too. Heavy steering. Gotta be moving a bit and when it's locked in 4x4, whew, it's like you're on rails. Have to plan your moves when you get in tight around trees, etc. I most often, when logging, will leave it in 2 wd, and low range, until it slips, put it in 4x4 for a bit, and back to 2 wd mostly. Makes steering so much better. Soft snow makes for easier steering too. You can get these rigs stuck too, and if you do (not planning your moves) it's a horror show. Has a winch on front. You Tube has lots of videos about tracked ATVs if you're interested.

    Some pix working (does great job packing the trail too) and just fun (going to camp)… and of course Giz "has" to be lead dog.

    heavy log.jpg Cabin wood load.jpg Cabin sight seeing.jpg
    Cabin trip Giz & Vic.jpg View attachment 10479 View attachment 10479
     
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  4. Loon

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    Got the 450 Suzuki a few years ago to haul anything i can hook up to it plus the dogs needed somewhere to sit :cool:

    You can just make out the stihl in the first pic:D


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  5. lukem

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    Surface area has very little to do with traction. The weight of the object and the coefficient friction between the two surfaces determine traction from a pure physics perspective. Surface area aids in flotation...that's why farm tractors run duals and dozer runs tracks...for flotation...not traction.

    Practical applications may appear to be contrary to this....like a dually in wet grass...but in reality the increased flotation just prevents the tires from reaching a point in the ground where the coefficient of friction is higher.

    Tracks on an ATV will make just about anything look silly when it comes to traction.
     
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    Ummmm. :whistle: Could you please splain first pic?
     
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    Uh oh ;)
     
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    No beer involved guys :cool: It was before i did a couple mods as the little 25 cent release clip that came with it would let go if there was too much wood in it :confused: Dont need it to dump so put a large bolt through it..
     
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    What? You've never seen a dump cart? :p
     
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    I just recently found out that MOST, almost ALL ATV's are only 2wd! I thought they were all 4wd!! What gives? They must be terrible in the snow! 2wd with no weight at all, YIKES!
     
  11. clemsonfor

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    [quote="Machria, post: 55541, member: 68]do I just recently found out that MOST, almost ALL ATV's are only 2wd! I thought they were all 4wd!! What gives? They must be terrible in the snow! 2wd with no weight at all, YIKES![/quote]
    We dint have snow much here but when we do and the small amount that we get I handle fine in it. We have plenty of mud though and unless your in like the edge of a kind or something you dont need 4wd. Atv's have locked rears so they spin both rears equal.

    A 2wd atv will go places that you would not even look at with a truck. The only time I wish I had 4wd is in the woods on hills covered in leaves. You struggle for traction there esp if pulling a trailer.
     
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  12. lukem

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    Huh? Most *sport* ATVs are 2WD...most *utility* are 4.

    My 4wd is a beast in the snow. Most of the time I don't even use 4wd and it still goes about anywhere.
     
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    There were thousands of honda fourtrx of various sizes made in 2wd over the years. I would venture to guess that during the 10+year run from 88-00 or whenever they changed the body that there were more 300trx made in 2wd than 4wd. Or maybe just thats the case in the south ? I see 5:1 2wd 300trx's. I have one so I notice.
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    Interesting. I wonder if it's just different in other parts of the country/world. They're all called 4x4s here in Maine and I can't remember seeing many that weren't 4wd.
     
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    Sort of like Trucks and Tractors. 2wd works fine for most of the time. But 4wd is really nice (sometimes invaluable) to have for those other times.
     
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    You don't see too many 2wd 300's around here unless they're a 300EX. A few 2wd Recons and older ranchers, but not many. Probably < 10%.
     
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    And usually, if you normally drive in 2 wheel drive you're right, you can almost always "get out" using the 4wd. But, if you always use the 4wd, and you get stuck… well… you're just stuck.
     
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    Unless you have a winch. And something to tie off to.
     
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    I have an old one, about the only thing it gets used for is hunting. a Honda trx300, 90 model. Only pics I have of it is with deer layin on it. deer hunting 016.jpg SANY0945.JPG SANY0689.JPG
     
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