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TSC Heat Treated Firewood

Discussion in 'The Wood Pile' started by Kimberly, Sep 27, 2016.

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  1. saskwoodburner

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    My chimney cap can get a bit ornery to take off (didn't secure/twist on fully one time, paying ever since!) due to the smoky tar that seems to form in between the mating surfaces.

    I use a finishing hammer and a little block of wood to vibrate the works loose. Then some very light tapping with the hammer along the bottom, and my other hand moderate pressure counter clockwise. This might work for you?

    Another option might be to use an old bicycle tube as a wrap around pipe wrench so to speak. Maybe a light rub with dish soap and let dry so it's tacky. Wrap around chimney and then twist tightly (a piece of dowel to tighten like a torniquet), then torque the cap off with the other hand. Just thinking out loud.
     
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    Those locking bands suck. My cap does the same thing...if I try to twist it off it unlocks the bottom sections. I just pry it off with a screw driver...just work slow all the way around releasing one of the locking "tabs" at a time. Doesn't seem to hurt the cap any...I've done this at least a dozen times and it is no worse for the wear.
     
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    Yup. That is exactly what it is.
     
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    And we still complain about it. Used to be 4% for many years. At least we don't have to pay it on food or medicine.
     
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    You dont seem to like woodheat.org very well do you?
    Even tightly stacked rows will have a fair amount of air spaces, the number stated it was an average not an absolute, every little air space will add up quicker then you might think.
    Kinda like those little air leaks in your house add up to an open window in no time.
     
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    I have nothing against woodheat.org but one can just even casually look at most wood piles and not see 1/3 of it taken up with air space. Even when I stack loosely to assist with the drying of the wood there will not be 1/3 of it as air space. That is ridiculous.

    I can easily picture that some experiments were done, usually with college students. Most had probably never stacked wood before and it is easy to picture the results. But to think that 2/3 is the norm or average amount of wood in a cord is just plain bull.
     
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    LOL, the one article said it was based on weight not "college students who stacked wood the first time ( that was funny).
    But you are not the only one to question the results, one person thought it was more like 82% versus the 66%.
    Not sure it qualifies as bull turds.
     
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    I wonder if they are reaching the 85 cubic feet of wood by using cylinders? The 128 is the volume of the rectangular cuboid. If they are viewing the firewood as cylinders, then we can calculate the volume of each cylinder that would stack inside of that cuboid and see how much volume results in the voids between each cylinder. We normally split our firewood and stack it and split firewood is going to sit closer together. So this may be why woodheat.org has so much wasted space in their cord of wood.
     
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    I just snapped a pick of a cord (give or take) here. Not tight and not loosey goosey. Only the ends that are cribbed seem to have a lot of air space. image.jpg
     
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    I'm with the belief that there is no way 1/3 air space also.
    Would like to see pic of a pile that does have one third air space; perhaps stacked by an unscrupulous firewood dealer? :whistle: :rofl: :lol:
     
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    Dad use to called them rabbit cords.
     
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    Looking at that picture you can see a lot of air gaps, not sure what it adds up to but there are some bigger ones there. The article said it was an average so I can see it in some cases, the pieces vary a lot unless you have perfect wood.
    The 1/3 air space does seem like it's too much but I can see it with irregular pieces.
    Maybe you guys have perfectly shaped firewood.
     
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    Most of the estimates of 85 cu ft in articles I remember reading they were calculating along with weight from green to seasoned , so from a green stacked cord they subtracted air, bark and water/shrinkage to come up with 85 cu ft net of solid wood. A bit of a contrived 85 cu ft. but maybe not totally wrong either. I lose about 5 or 6 inches of height on red oak stacked for three years. ( two rows of 16 inch long splits 12 feet long/4 feet high losing 5/6 inches of height is about 15.6 cu ft of air right there just in shrinkage )
     
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    Yes, I learned about shrinkage on Seinfeld. :D
     
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    If you're going to buy something like that you would be better off with the Eco bricks they will put out some serious Heat
     
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    If you buy a pallet of the eco bricks at TSC, you get $15.00 off the price. Let me see how many are on a pallet.
     
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    OK, they have two different ones; one is three in a pack and one is 6 in a pack; I am guessing they are different sizes; I am reading from the brochure instead of TSC website. there are 96 packs on a pallet. Let me look up the eco bricks on their website to get a price.
     
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    I'm just saying, I have used them, I'm not saying there an economical compared to free cord wood, but they will put out heat above Hickory and Oak
     
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    I gave you all the information you needed previously, Eco bricks 6-pack is what you want, I guess they call them fuel blocks now or whatever, but the six pack deals, is what you want, not the bigger ones
     
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    • Pack of 6
    • Hardwood
    • Single brick measures 9-1/2 x 3-1/2 x 2-3/4 in.
    • Single brick weighs 3-1/2 lb.
    They are $3.48 USD a pack and there are 96 packs on a pallet. $3.49 x 96 - $15.00 = $320.04.

    That $15.00 is a drop in the bucket compared to the cost of a pallet; not much of an incentive to buy a pallet unless you were already going to buy a pallet in which case the $15 is still not much of an incentive.
     
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