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East coast coyote , AKA coy/wolf

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  1. bogydave

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    Saw a PBS nature special on the east coast coyote
    AKA hybird coy/wolf
    Bigger than a coyote smaller than a wolf.
    living in cities, adapting to live near people
    Any one seeing them around ?

    I remember seeing a big coyote in PA, when back visiting, turkey hunting about 10 years ago,
    Now I think it was a coy/wolf.
    It was a lot bigger than the coyote here.
     
  2. Paul bunion

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    Yep. It has been a while and I usually see more foxes but they are around. Several years ago we were out hiking and a deer came over the rise in front of me with a coyote in close pursuit. They were both gone on a flash. My wife didn't even see it.
     
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    We've got a pretty bad coyote problem here. I can hear them out back in the big woods on any given night. They've also put a hurtin on our deer populations over the past few years. A buddy of mine traps em and he's seen some bigguns! Some them in the 70+ lb range
     
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    Shot two on the farm last year. Have some snow on the ground now and there are more coyote tracks in the snow than most anything else.

    My 3 year old cows have been aborting at a high rate. About 50% tested positive for a parasite found in coyote feces. It can cause spontaneous abortions. No treatment, no vaccine. :(

    Seems to be more coloration to the ones here verses the ones out west.

    Have lost some new born calves to coyotes. I have 3 donkeys to put in with various cow groups at calving.
     
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    Friend hunting here on my farm last year witnessed a group of 4 deer running down a coyote... He said they meant business!
     
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    So the only thing you can do is ramp up application of various treatments offered by Remington, Winchester, Hornady, etc.... to the carrier of said parasite? :whistle:
     
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    we have a decent coyote population here in the southern suburbs of Boston, Mass. It's amazing how well adapted they have become to live in and around civilization.
    A quick story on how smart they are as a group. I live on a dead end street and at the end of the street there is open land with a marsh in it. It's about 25-30 acres in size and the coyotes have a small population that make their way in this area in the warmer months. 2 summers ago my wife let our 2 boxers out to do their business before they headed up to bed. 2 coyotes were on the edge of the marshy property and the dead end street. Because the simularities of them and dogs are so close my dogs didn't really notice a difference at first. My female was aware and her hair was up, my male had no idea and slowly went close to them. Just as all this was happening my wife walked out the front door and saw what was happening and called them back, the coyotes chased them to the front yard and then turned away. Since that day they have been seen walking at the end of the dead end street a lot more than in the past
     
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    I hand load so it is either 27 gr. of Varget pushing a 55 gr. Nosler ballistic tip or 52 gr. of 4350 pushing a 100 gr. Sierra pro hunter.
     
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  9. mywaynow

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    Our yotes are the size of my lab. I was sure my dog was in the farm field across from my house one day as I drove home. Until it turned and trotted off and I saw the body language. I saw a group of 6 run through the woods and into a field this year. Thought they were deer at first, but then watched them horse around with each other and again saw the unique body language. Shoot on sight for me. They are not welcome round here. We can use 223's now. I have a Savage 12BTCS that is just itchin' to get out of the gun safe.
     
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    We have way to many of them around here but have fund trapping and snaring them to be the most effective means of killing them. Between the neighbor and I we trapped 4 of them last year on dads property. No matter what type of hunting I am doing if there is a coyote and i see it I kill it.
     
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    I just caught part of what was probably the same show last night. We have our share of Yotes...I can hear them on the hill behind the house late in the evenings.
     
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    I caught that program too, amazing how they have assimilated to their co-existence with man. I've seen a few around here over the years and hear them quite often at night out back ....................... my place is covered in tracks too, right up into the back yard. Finally decided to try and thin some out this year. I picked up a set of predator mouth calls, as well as a cheap Primos electronic call. The tool of choice for me was my tack driving vintage Husky M38 with 140g Barnes X bullets. My first time out I called in two, but they stayed behind heavy cover about 40 yards away not affording a clean rifle shot before they headed back the way they came (should have had the 12ga with buckshot that day!). The second and third times out were uneventful.

    The forth time out was an interesting experience! I set up overlooking my "bottomland" which has patches of dense cover scattered through it. After trying my mouth calls for awhile, I started up the Primos call trying out its different calls spaced out over about a three hour period. After trying out its different distress calls (rodent, goose, woodpecker, crow, pup, jack & cottontail) I finally tried the fawn distress call. Immediately, 4 does burst out of a patch of dense cover about 70-80 yards from me and ran for their lives out of sight. Those deer had held tight in that cover for several hours listening to my multitude of various squealing distress sounds until I hit the fawn sound ...................... that finally did it! Still haven't got a coyote yet but I'll be back out there trying as soon as this cold spell breaks.
     
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  13. mywaynow

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    Once you call in a yote, you need to make him pay. He winds you, sees you , or you miss him with a shot and you need to find another calling method. Brains, that's what they've got. Lots of'm.
     
  14. bogydave

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    +1

    Out of all the animals I trapped, coyote were the toughest .
    Great eyesight , smell, speed & cunning.
     
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    So look what crossed the ice at my cousins home this morning.
    image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg
     
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  16. bogydave

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    Great picture
    looks like a lot thicker body than the coyote here.
     
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    Just got back home from a morning hunt for yotes. Used the Primos Turbo Dogg, turkey mouth calls, and my savage axis .223. Nothing taken although I must have scared a deer into a noisey frozen swamp. Like you guys mentioned, coyotes will be shot on sight. Last deer hunt I found 3 turkey carcasses scattered through the woods behind the house. These things really screw up my spring turkey hunting.
     
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  18. JustWood

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    Run hounds on them with the neighbor and a group of guys. Usually take 30-50 year. Ones here are claimed to be a red wolf cross. They average 35 lbs. Heaviest we've taken is 51.
     
  19. BuckthornBonnie

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    Late to the party on this one, but here's the link for the aforementioned pbs show:
    http://video.pbs.org/video/2365159966/

    There's a bit more to this story from a biology perspective. Besides any genetic factors making coyotes more "wolf-like," they are also filling the niche of a top predator in most of the Eastern forests. They're smart, opportunistic, and are prolific breeders.
     
  20. stihl sawing

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    I seen that show, those were some huge yotes or wolves. We have an SANY0925.JPG SANY0931.JPG abundance of yotes here. I usually pop one or two every deer season. their usually chasing deer when I see them. Didn't get one this but killed two of these things.