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Define the "three year plan"

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  1. Gark

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    I have 3 years' worth of splits stacked in open area drying out. Then, come September, a winter's worth is moved into the wood shed. This leaves HOLES where the moved stacks were- rather saddening and bummed out. So, get busy scrounging to fill those holes!

    Is this scenario a "three year plan"? ......... OR ......

    Should the three year plan actually have FOUR years' worth of stacks in the drying area so that after a winters fuel is staged to the wood shed, there still remains three winter's worth of stacks in the windy/sunny open space?

    If the 3-year plan is the latter, I have been smug and complacent for no reason. I will need to work twice as hard (one more time) to achieve a true "three year plan".

    (With respect to Pink Floyd)
    Run, rabbit run
    Dig that hole, forget the sun
    When at last the work is done
    Don't sit down, it's time to dig another one
     
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  2. Lumbering On

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    It depends on how quickly you can fill those empty stacks.

    If it takes an entire year to collect, split and stack to replenish the supply, then I agree. You actually need space for 4 years, in order to have wood seasoning for 3 full years.
     
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  3. NortheastAl

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    It's being at that point where the wood you burn this year has been seasoned for three years. That is the optimal situation. It may be hard to get there for some of us, but you can be assured that what you are burning is fully dried, seasoned and will burn cleanly. The necessity of drying for three years is because new EPA stoves do not do well with wood that is truly dried. They will create more creosote, not reach efficient operating temperature and you will not have a pleasant experience heating with wood.

    You shouldn't even need a moisture meter if you dry for three years. You can then burn with confidence any species of wood, including Oak.
     
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  4. Chvymn99

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    Forr most wood, that plan would be do able, but not with oak. Cause I would look at like its still just 2 years of seasoning plan, third year is still in process.
     
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  5. NortheastAl

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    It depends on what month you cut it too. Four years worth would eliminate all possibility of less than three year old CSS. You would even be able to dip into the 2-3 year stuff if there is an exceptionally cold winter.
     
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    Yep a lot of variables every bodies situation will be a little different. Size of property, amount of usage, species of wood.
     
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  7. Grizzly Adam

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    Always liked this bit better...

    And you run and you run
    To keep up with the sun
    But it's sinking
    And racing around to come up behind you again.
    The sun is the same in a relative way
    But you're older,
    Shorter of breathe and one day closer to death.

    Fits this situation too.
     
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  8. Jack Straw

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    The way I look at it is: I cut wood all winter, that wood is for year 3. I am trying to get so that will be for year 4.The wood I am cutting now in October will be burned in October of 2016. I write the date on my wood racks.

    For our friends on brand x that didn't get here yet!:thumbs:

    How I wish, how I wish you were here.
    We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year,
    Running over the same old ground.
    What have we found?
    The same old fears.
    Wish you were here.
     
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  9. Grizzly Adam

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    Another golden oldie by Roger

    I kept you in buttons and bows
    Christ! All those clothes!
    So you could encourage this creep
    With his neat feet
    And his clean fingernails
    With his wise but twinkling eyes
    He's a rock standing out in an ocean of doubt
    And compromise
    I'd like to go on with this bit of a song
    Describing this schmuck
    I'd like to go on but I'm going to throw up.
     
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  10. papadave

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  11. Jack Straw

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    It is very important to be 3 years ahead just in case this happens to you


    An angel on a Harley
    Pulls across to greet a fellow rolling stone
    Puts his bike up on it's stand
    Leans back and then extends
    A scarred and greasy hand...he said
    He said, how ya doin bro?
    Where ya been?
    Where ya goin'?
    Then he takes your hand
    In some strange Californian handshake
    And breaks the bone
    [Whiny person:] "Have a nice day, hehe"
     
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  12. DexterDay

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    If I didnt give away wood to some certain people (Family / Scouts). Then I would benin the 4 yr category.
    But, after last yr, I went back to the 3 yr category. ....

    The wood I have for this yr is 3 (Summers) yrs old, as will be the wood for next year. But the wood for the year after that, I am cutting now. Its a 7 cord load of all Silver Maple and Ash. So with just 2 yrs (Summers), it will still be fine.

    Most people prob cant keep that much wood. Lots of urban burners out there, that don't have the space and/or resources.

    With that said.....
    Even 1 solid year is pretty good in terms of seasoning (cut now and start burning this time next year). Most stove manufacturers actually have 1 yr seasoned wood in there Manuals.

    A lot of what I will burn this year is Oak, with some ash, and hickory. It is 3 yrs old (put it up the year I started burning). I tested it (MM) and burned a few loads last year and it was fine after 2 years. I single row stacked it, with stacks 4 ft apart, and top covered it every Fall/Winter/Spring.

    Lots of variables with how you stack it, where you stack it, your climate for the area and the year. I gave away my MM last year when I seen my OAK was at or under 20% within 2 yrs.

    Bogeydave has said it best many times. Your gonna burn what got, seasoned or not. All you canndo is be as safe as you possibly can. Use good practices, burn hot/don't smother, and check/clean your chimney often.
     
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  13. Grizzly Adam

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    Worst song on the album!
     
  14. mywaynow

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    Pros and cons. One of my favorites.
    Through closed eyes, I see West German skies on the ceiling........

    How does one come up with this stuff??
    A genius amoung us, Roger.
     
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  15. Grizzly Adam

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    I always thought the Final Cut, which was written at the same time as the wall and pros/cons, was the most underrated album in the catalogue.
     
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    Might as well be 5 years ahead, removes all doubt.
     
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  17. Backwoods Savage

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    Worry no more Gark. You are doing just fine. You are 3 years ahead right now and this is before the burning season begins. If you are like me, you'll be cutting wood this winter and then the splitting and stacking in the spring. Bingo! You'll still be 3 years ahead if you cut enough this winter for one year's burning.
     
  18. Jack Straw

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    Now I'm confused are we supposed to have 3 years of wood or Pink Floyd albums, bye the way which one is pink?:rofl: :lol:
     
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  19. Gark

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    You can never have too many Pink Floyd albums (or firewood).
     
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    Come in here dear boy, have a cigar you're gonna go far
    You're gonna fly high, you're never gonna die, you're gonna make it if you try
    They're gonna love you.

    Listening as I type...perfect way to end a day of scrounging and splitting juniper :)