The tip on my 20" ES bar attached to my 461 locked up tight today while cutting som ash. First question: What's the process for replacing the tip, besides throwing money at it? Question 2: Could it be an oiling problem with the saw? I did the usual check before cutting. I dropped, limbed and bucked 2 trees, small trees in the 10 inch range. Didn't even use a tank of fuel. The chain and bar were suspiciously dry after the tip locked but the fuel and oil levels in the tanks were just about even. Thanks for your tips! Hope I can do something for you in return.
That could have been a factor if it was ran hot. Could have just been a bad tip. Drill the rivets part way before you punch them out.
The star in front of the bar work ? Yes dont change the tip and find in other places the problem No change the tip but take a look and to the saw if sent oil ( without bar cover and bar )
I plan to take the 25" bar and chain off the 661 and try it on the 461 real quick to see if it's pumping oil. That's after I do a once over clean job to make sure everything is open for the oil to flow. I'll let her rip for about 10 seconds or so and see if she's slinging oil. If not, it's off to the shop. And yes the sprocket in the nose of the bar is locked tight.
Your 461 should oil a 20" bar with plenty to spare. I like the idea of running the 25" B&C to check oiling, but from your story, I bet it's fine. Replacing the tip is as easy as punching our some rivet and then putting new rivets in. Easy peasy.
Wow! If only my world worked that well! No drill press, no center punch, no relal work shop; looks like I'll have to take it to the shop. I'll bet the price of having it replaced will be so close to the price of a new 20" bar I'll probably wind up with a new bar and a skinnier wallet.
Before you do anything, jam the sprocket into a piece of wood to see if you can free it up. Sometimes a splinter of wood or other debris gets lodged in there.
No need for a full blown shop. I've replaced bar tips working on the tailgate of my truck. Cordless drill, a little bar oil, small drilling hammer, and a small punch. Doing them in my garage is easier for sure, but not that much different. +2 Good advice right there. Overnight soak in ATF, run the tip down a 2x4, then blow out with compressed air.
Okay kids its fixed! Just full of chips. Did the 2x4 thing, scraped a bit with a dental pick, put some bar oil on it and it's off to the races. 15 years of cutting and I've never had that happen! Lesson learned! Thanks for the tips!
You can check if a saw is oiling without the bar. If it is then the bar holes are plugged or grove filled with crap
