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First harman snag

Discussion in 'Pellet Stoves, Pellet Fireplaces, Pellet Furnaces' started by Charles Ingalls, Apr 3, 2016.

  1. gbreda

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    Well, you can drink plenty of beer on the new deck and then admire the remodeled bathroom when paying the beer rent :D
     
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  2. will711

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    Or just Pee off the deck :whistle::rofl: :lol::rofl: :lol:
     
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  3. Charles Ingalls

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    Thats what Im talking about
     
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    Try ventingpipe.com. I don't have a Harman stove, but I do have a mix of the old Duravent piping and the Duravent pro series piping. What I did find out was, the old Duravent would connect to the Duravent pro series, but the Duravent pro series, would not connect to the old style Duravent. I bought a pro series adapter from ventingpipe.com and ran the pro series piping inside the house, because of the rubber sealing, but once I got outside, I connected the old Duravent to the pro series, because I didn't care if it leaked outside. Just wanted to make sure there was no leaks inside the house.
     
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  5. IHATEPROPANE

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    Am I the only one that sealed the connections with silicone and tape just in case? Took five minutes and cost $5.
     
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  6. Lousyweather

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    Im sure you're not the only one who had to seal the connections if you bought Duravent. Opps...did my bias show there? :mad:
     
  7. Lousyweather

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    I DO think its a good idea to get the draft tested/set.....some folks have the magnehelic/draft gauge to do so, others don't. While most stoves are fine leaving it factory set (low draft at 100%), there are others which can benefit from being set. Also, it gives us a baseline draft for any possible troubleshooting later on.....make sure when they test the draft you write it in the owners' manual....we generally record the voltage at the wall, date of install, as well as high draft and low draft. If we have to go back later, we wont remember the draft, the homeowner wont either, so we just ask for the manual. Its pretty amazing how much draft can tell you, and how it affects your unit.
    As for "might leak" stuff.......we used to use Duravent as well. Way too many calls back due to leakage. Went to ICC, almost none. Callbacks are expensive and take up time where the tech could be doing other things. Factor in the bolted Harman connection to the ICC, and its kind of a no-brainer. Now, with an install on a new stove, if we utilize the "old" pipe, here we are again with leakage. Rarely also is the install exactly the same....stove outlet height issues, clearance issues, etc, which prompts one to have to try and modify the existing "old" pipe, maybe hunt around for different sections because of this, etc. Frankly, its just not worth our time (paying a guy by the hour, our vehicles, driving around for more pipe, lost opportunity cost, etc), not to mention we are responsible for leakage in the old pipe....which is why we almost never use old pipe. I understand this might not be a popular viewpoint, but when you're responsible for an install, you want as few variables as possible. And you should see some of this "old" pipe.
    Good luck with the Advance! I'm sure it will give you many years of good service!
     
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  8. IHATEPROPANE

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    I didn't have to seal it, test burned it without it. Sealed it JIC.

    Full disclosure: There was one 12" piece that was a little loose, didn't notice a leak, but it was outside and I put it on the top of the run.
     
  9. Lousyweather

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    some folks seal with tape (ok), but others seal with RTV. Especially when the RTV is put in the female part of the joint, ever try getting sections apart once that's done? Definitely not easy, and can ruin the pipe trying to get it apart to "adjust" the old pipe.....
     
  10. IHATEPROPANE

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    I used both, don't need it to come apart until I replace the stove. Which will be many years and I would replace the venting anyway at that point.
     
  11. Lousyweather

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    yea, but you can imagine trying to get that stuff apart to reuse it?
     
  12. IHATEPROPANE

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    Yup, I personally wouldn't want to do it.
     
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    Hell no, that chit it the worst.....silicone in those joints. :hair:
     
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    Starting to feel left out, I don't have any kind of sealant on any of my duravent piping. Was the duravent pipe quality better in the "old days" than it is now, or vice versa? I will get a very faint whiff of smoke at startup time from the P68 and I know it's coming from the tee cap. Only lasts a minute or so until the stove gets cranking. It's been like that for 8 seasons, guess it never bothered me enough to do anything about it.
     
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    you'd be surprised who it does bother!
     
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    No worries Brother I don't either , We can be a club of 2 :thumbs: :cheers:
     
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    4..... no leaks either.....Ever!
     
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    Looks like I'll have to buy more Beer for our club meeting :thumbs: :pete: :cheers:
     
  20. Pete Zahria

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