No I didn't. I forgot the "God Bless". Up to two posts ago, you were talking like a rational thinking person in this discussion. Since then, it has all been the cagers. If motorcyclists will quit riding through cutting lanes, passing on double lines, driving between parked or slow moving cars, etc...., I'd say the dangers of being run over drop to the same statistical probability of cagers being run over by cagers. You guys talk about how appropriate it is to do whatever you want. Legal or illegal. In the name of your safety. Then how cool it is to ride fast, blow by cars, etc.... for the thrill of it. Illegally mind you. You say cagers are irresponsible acting. Yet speak of irresponsible actions as being acceptable for you because you are on a motorcycle. These descriptions don't support the point that cagers are the ones truly posing the danger's to you. I'm not trying to argue or, paint you all with a broad brush. But, dang it men, if we were in court testifying, most of the riders that have posted here would go to jail. By incriminating themselves! Anyways, not picking. Not wanting to argue. Just pointing out the obvious. I'm sure if we were all in person, we'd be having this discussion in a friendly way. So, don't take my refusal to dismiss the hypocrisy expressed, personally. God Bless men
Take note, the lane splitting was referenced as"should be legal" it is in California and every European country. Passing in a double yellow in my state is legal, passing after a "Do not pass" sign is not legal. The MSF has attributed a factor of 90% of cycle crashes involving alcohol, 9% of them involve no alcohol but do involve a car and only 1% to be rider caused. We have good reason to try to stay away from the cars at every opportunity. Everyone involved should investigate how non riders perceive bikes on the road. Many non riders can make eye contact with a ridea only to pull out directly in front of him. The cognition that the bike is a real object like a car or truck never happens.
trying to keep this on track, pun intended I was a Nicky fan for the longest time. It was painful to watch him settle into mediocrity. Unfortunately I do not get the network to watch WSBK. I'm pretty much anyone but George fan. Can't stand the DB. I see your Still and raise you a Husky Lol! Serious talent without a doubt, and a little luck here and there!
Find one post in this thread where I said I speed excessively on the street. . Knowing the limits of what your bike can do can also save your hide. I get your point. I hope you understand mine, and the other riders that live by the same credo. I know for a fact that I would have been dead, or maimed badly enough several times to take away my ability to ride a motorcycle at bare minimum, had I not used my brain to get away from a bad situation on a bike, caused solely by negligence, or worse on behalf of a car driver. Thankfully I'm not typing this with a mouth wand, or from a wheelchair. The most recent time my illegal in Wisconsin Lane splitting maneuver saved my life was about 4 years ago, having to come to a complete stop on I-94 in the Marquette interchange. I had no issue stopping. I figured that the corner and a freeway going from 60+ mph to zero may not be so easy for people behind me. While stopped, I saw a car rapidly approaching. I quickly zipped in between the cars ahead of me. The car that was careening to where I was barely stopped before it hit the rear bumper off the car I was stopped behind. Lanesplitting. Illegal, book me, I'm a traffic offender. . That illegal move saved my bacon. I also guarantee that had I split lanes right alongside a cop car, that they wouldn't have cited me. Laws are made to protect us under most circumstances. A smart person can see flaws in laws, and that there are circumstances that our head is the thing that will protect us, not laws. I'm sorry but I think you said you don't ride on the street. If you don't, you really can't speak to what those of us that do see, far too much on the streets.
I can see both lanes of this traffic, and I JOKINGLY SUBMIT: It's a lively debate for sure, as I have and have had several family member riders; there are good operators and bad, regardless of how many wheels are in contact with the road. FHC is about freedom of speech, action, and sustainability. It's also about level headed discourse, and sometimes spirited debate. Y'all are brothers (& sisters) from a different mothers, so I extend my hand to each and everyone the same; ride and drive safe- it's the other ones we need to watch! And the same to all our out of country members
Nicky's doing well in wsbk. All you need is beIN sports. It's available to anyone with WiFi though slingTV. The base slingTV has lots of great channels for $20 a month, no commitment, and the sports package for $5 more has beIN. $25 a month to get ESPN, discovery, history, tmc, food network and a lot more is appealing. I simply called DirecTV and got the $14 sports pack, and took off my decided receiver I never use and it actually saved me a dollar vs my old bill, and they threw in HBO free for 3 months. When someone can figure out how to DVR slingTV, I'll drop DirecTV and get sling. Nicky is ampedto be at our near the front, once again. Next year. He'll have a new fireblade, and he won't have to learn a few new tracks, and new tires like he is this year. You should watch for PJ Jacobsen from new york, in world supersport, on the same ten Kate Honda team that Nicky is on in superbike. PJ came in as very close 2nd place last year, despite switching from Yamaha to Honda during the season. He's in second after 2 race weekend so far in the championship, and should have won last race from the Thailand. He led all but the last lap.
If you are riding and get to a point where you have to make an illegal move to get out of a situation, you were in way over your head to start with. You should of backed off already.
I call them crock rockets. Or rice rockets. And they look like they would jack your back up after an hour or two...bad.
Horkin, you spoke of passing on double lines to get away from cars. I assumed you did so with speed. There is no need to continue to point out the obvious. God Bless
It's definitely illegal here to pass on double yellow. I can't say I have ever seen a "no passing from here on" sign anywhere other than the moutains...just to make sure in case you couldn't tell from the horrid visibility AND double yellow That you were not suppose to pass.
Brother, you summed up my point better in those two sentences, than I have in four posts. God Bless men
That is simply not true. I can't tell you how many times while riding rather sedately and well within legal limits I have been put into a bad situation by the poor driving of a cage that was best remedied by a maneuver that would be considered illegal. @WVMountaineer, don't take it personally that some riders take the attitude that all cages are the enemy, it is just the way it is, even if its my wife behind the cage wheel. If you don't take the stance that you are invisible and all cages are out to get you, you will more than likely end up a statistic.
No offense about the capitol "G" Your "preachin to the choir" when your talking about the bad perception off "all" riders by some of the non-riding public because of the antics of a few, it's a big problem. Kinda similar to "all" gun owners being branded by the idiotic actions of a few.
I think the point against cars is that a 2 ton car hitting a motorcycle rider has a good chance of killing him. But a 200lb rider and a 400lb bike hitting a car probably isn't going to hurt anyone but the rider. I know the risks involved with riding hard on the streets can hurt ourselves, but I also know the chances of hurting others is very slim. I'd just like the same courtesy from cars and trucks. Also, just because my knees are an inch off the pavement doesn't mean I'm going crazy fast. A lot of the roads I used to ride in KY were 55 MPH, but they were so tight and twisty that you could get your thrills cruising at 55-65mph. I've been pulled over leading the the pack clocked at 62, only to be given a verbal warning when the cop realized the speed limit wasn't posted, defaulting it to 55mph. He had originally thought I was in a 45mph zone. "Nine you're fine, ten you're mine."
