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Cut and Sawed in '75, Installed in '85: ShipLap Unfinished Red Cedar

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  1. tractorman44

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    I finished a portion of a basement area for the kids playroom in '85. Some of the walls go at a 45 from floor to ceiling and other walls just have half lapped wainscoating as I showed in another members post about milling posts for his little girls project....( I did mean to change that horrible receptacle and cover....really, I did).

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    I'd posted this to show how a ship lap joint won't show anything but cedar if it moves with temp or humidity. This cedar was cut and milled by my older brother, myself and dad in '75 off of the old home place.

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    This, however is roughly 9 1/2" cedar that I tongue and grooved on a Woodmaster 12' planer for the wifey's walk-in. The closet is 10 1/2' tall x 8' deep x 12' wide and all four walls are made like this, some material worked out to be a bit narrower though. Even all the shelves floor to ceiling are made of cedar.

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    She even has a cedar door separating the master bath from the closet. I just had to try out the new Grizzly 3 hp shaper and the rail and stile bits on something..... Now, about the door knob....

    The door is sporting two coats of polyeurthane because the master bath floor is t & g walnut and is finished in high gloss poly glitz. The walls and shelves are unfinished though !!!!!

    I have a few more to post of a more recent project.....but first: SUPPERTIME !!!!!
     
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    This is t & g ash in one of the bathrooms. Even the 45's are t & g'd... There's one butt joint there in the middle I wish I'd done differently. This ash is old too, but I didn't do this project until the late 80's maybe early 90's...dunno, it's just a bad memory. Good thing the bits were carbide though, and the finish nails all had to be pre-drilled.

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    Here's a storebought oak 4 panel with some of that slippery elm trim. A 4 5/8" crown moulding bit was used on a 12" Woodmaster planer but the relief bit wasn't used on the back so the crown could be used as flat trim. This is some elm my dad and uncle sawed for their old buddy in 1964.

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    Last year we converted our covered back porch into a 4 season room by installing wall to wall glass and two six foot sliders with transoms above and below as necessary to fill the 94" height. So the pine on the ceiling and the red cedar on the walls was all tongue and grooved back in the late 80's and left unfinished. So out with the hand sanders and polyeurthane and this is what it turned out like.

    The old yellow pine ceiling looks a LOT like darkened cedar.... but its just old yellow pine.

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    An eleven foot wall of cedar. Even covered, it had faded pretty good with almost 25 years of outsideness but sanding brought it's color back out, even where it was sun bleached down low.

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    A better shot of the yellow pine ceiling and a transom over one of the three doors...

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    Of course there's always trim work when changing an outside porch to a new inside room.... More NOS cedar we sawed in '75 serves as trim for a 2015 project. All the original posts had to be covered with matching material and all the corners trimmed as well as the joints where the walls meet the ceiling.

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    Some of the freshly planed NOS cedar sawed on a 54" insert toothed Fisher and Davis mill powered by a '36 Buick in-line 8 on the old home place back in the '70's. Looks good as new !!!

    I guess we could really just go buy stuff and nail it up....but it just wouldn't be the same....besides, I'm and original tight adze.....
     
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    Nice work tractorman! The door casing is fantastic. Even better that it was your own work. Natural wood has a great look about it.
     
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    Gorgeous, looks :drool:, but the family history is priceless!!
     
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    Thank you sir, I don't know if slippery elm is the same as American elm or not, but it sure does have a pretty color...but then I'm a bit biased. And that particular door is a six panel, not a 4 panel....not that it matters a whole lot.

    Thank you ma'am, I just wish I could've saved the old sawmill at the farm auction, but back then I had to borrow about seven cents to buy a dime soda. I did manage to salvage a pretty good pile of miscellaneous odds and ends from my dad, grand dad and gr-grandad over the years prior to the farm sale though.
     
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    Very nice work/craftsmanship!


    Sorry about that butt joint of ash in the bathroom that you aren't happy with.
    (I see what you did there!!) :rofl: :lol:

    (And I have the lack of class to point it out!!)
     
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    I think your handiwork looks great tractorman44 :binoculars::thumbs:
    One day I'll post pics of the Cedar T & G I put up floor to ceiling (& the ceiling) in our bathroom remodel.....
    We don't have a mill, so I had to buy it......:confused:
    Looks gooder tho!
     
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    Beautiful work. tractorman44 - very self deprecating of a fine craftsman to identify flaws - that normal humans can't see (good test for me to find it). The bathroom wall with the mix of horizontal and vertical joints is a piece of art. Door casing is beautiful. These type of posts keep a young guy (40) like me motivated to do more with wood than burn it. BTW I was NOS in 1975. Thank you for sharing.
     
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    Pics don't show up for me?
     
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    Did I ever mention how much I love posts like this? Very nice!!
     
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    :binoculars:o_O Wow. Beautiful. Just beautiful.
     
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    Thanks to all you for the additional kind words posted above. As a kid having been raised in a three room shanty with no running water and only a couple wood stoves for heat, I feel like I'm living in a castle. Even though it would be considered austere by many standards, its fancy enough for me...and its mine !! Thanks again guys.
     
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    Beautifull work there Tractorman! Does that cedar have the good smell? We only have some type of small cedars around here, mostly used as fence posts.
     
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    Yeah, drywall hater here too!
     
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    Me too, iirc, I bought 4 sheets for the house here.
     
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    "Drywall hater"...now THATS funny !! But now that you mention it I really DO kinda hate drywall. About the cedar smell? Well, yes it had the wonderful cedar aroma for the first couple of years very strong but it eventually goes away....but what's kinda odd, is if you bury your nose within one of the wifes sweaters or dresses you can still pull the cedar smell out. Preferrably she's actually IN the sweater or dress when you sniff it though..... Well, not YOU per se, That's MY job....she'd probably slug you a good one with or without the accompanying compliment..... Uhhh, you know what I mean.
     
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    Tractorman, just move them thar butterfly's down 4", we won't tell. :whistle:
    What's on that Ash? some kind of "golden oak"? pretty!
     
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    :rofl: :lol:

    and another slug to be followed up from you, huh? :D
     
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