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New truck making me sick

Discussion in 'Everything Else (off topic)' started by Devin86, Jan 12, 2014.

  1. fox9988

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    I have an 01 Cummins that has been great for 225,000 (low) miles. If I had to get a different diesel, it would probably be an old 12 valve Cummins. They have there flaws but are not as complicated to fix as the newer diesels. Newer diesel tech is impressive until something goes wrong.
     
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    Golden age was '04-'07 (except for Ford and their NaviStar troubles... :(). High-Pressure Common Rail Injection, no DPF's, no Urea Injection, and just all-out horsepower wars.
     
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    6.0 Powerstroke- 2003-2008 JMHO
     
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    One of the most notorious of the "new" diesels. Ford had a rough run of it with the 6.0L and various versions of the 6.4L.
     
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    Ok, we're getting off track here! Sorry Devin, please keep us updated on what happens with your truck!
     
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    To the contrary, it's good discussion. Way too many people buy/bought diesel pickups that have no clue, other than they know that's what the cool kids have. No idea on the extra maintenance involved, the added repair costs (because everything costs more in the diesel world), the wierd reliability issues that shouldn't be, thinking they're gonna get 24 mpg because that's what their uncle's 12v gets, "Oh jeez, I gotta be careful where I buy fuel?!" and on and on.
     
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    I agree it's a good discussion,(good for a new thread?) I just didn't want it to seem like we were piling on Devin's new truck. Don't even get me started on the fuel! :rofl: :lol: Everyone always tell me, "it'll go 300K without any trouble." Yep, no trouble at all...:rolleyes:
     
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    Yep that's why I get a diesel or if it will be first or second Gen cummins or the 7.3. None of this new chocked up engines .
     
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    The horsepower wars are what killed the modern diesel's reliability...trying to meet strict emissions standards and generate more power than anyone will ever really need.

    I was watching TV and Dodge is advertising 30K towing. 30K? In a pickup truck? NFW.
     
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    Original injector pump? Mine crapped out at 65k. For whatever reason, it would run perfectly on B20, so I filled it up, found a punk kid to give what I wanted for it, and dumped it. Bought a V10 Ford and never looked back.

    '94-'98 Dodges are arguably the peak of the diesel pickup, as far as reliabilty and performance go. That 12V is capable of soooooo much more than stock form, and still be driven every day. Quite a few 1,000,000+ mile trucks out there.
     
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    Mine has 136,00 miles and is still on the original everything except the transmission valve body upgrade and new ball joints 10,000 miles ago. My buddy has an 05 with 267,000 miles on it and it still has the original injectors and pump. Only issues he has had are a transmission rebuild at 230,000 miles. I am planning on replacing my injectors sometime between now and 150,000 miles just because I know they can have issues which I don't want to deal with.
     
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    Different animals. The 98.5-02 Cummins had the VP 44 pump, which is mechanical, yet computer controlled. Yours is a high pressure, common rail design. A huge improvement.

    The P7100 pumps on the 12V were way overkill for the engine, and reliable as heck. And purely mechanical, no electronics involved. Except to shut it off.
     
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    Why not?
     
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    40K is semi tractor / triaxle territory. I don't care how good your trailer brakes are, and 8K pickup is going to get mighty squirelly with that much weight pushing on it, particularly when turning. The truck doesn't weigh enough.

    I used to pull a D5 (20ish K) around on a 5'er trailer with a 1-ton Dodge and that was all it wanted (from a handling perspective). It had plenty of power, but going around corners you could feel the front end plowing (and yes the tongue weight was correct, scale verified). Stopping was an issue...stopping and turning at the same time was a big issue.

    I've driven my fair share of overloaded vehicles, so it was nothing new, but I absolutely hated the few times I had to make that trip.
     
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    I'm hauling in the 30k neighborhood when I'm hauling silage hay. My truck handles it well. Maybe its a dodge problem.:D

    If it's designed for it I have no problem with it. They have to do something because I'm not going to pay twice as much for a rig that can't do more than what I already have.
     
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    IIRC there is some fine print, it may be able to pull it but stopping it is another matter. I personally think pulling 30K with a pick up truck any amount of distance is a bad idea I don't care what they say it can haul.
     
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    Anyone who has bought a truck in the last 5 years has paid double for a truck that basically does the same thing that they did 15 years prior.

    Yes they tow a bit more but still prices are crazy.
     
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    Yes, original vp44 that was starved for fuel for an unknow number of miles due to a very weak lift pump. Banks Power Pack on it since 78K miles, sustainable power.
     
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    Hauling silage and hay on the backroads is one thing. Hauling @$$ down the highway is another. We hauled wheatlage this summer a couple miles down the road. That stuff is HEAVY. Put some serious groan on the trucks.

    And yes, it might be a Dodge problem. They go thru front ends like tissues. Either way, I still don't like it.
     
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    30k @ 20 mph is one thing. Doing it at 65 when some $&@&head decides to cut you off in a merge is quite another.
     
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