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Hearth stone brand stoves?

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Keweenaw, Jan 17, 2016.

  1. HarvestMan

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    What air setting are you using to get these burn times? I'm still in the learning phase and seeing what I can get away with and what I can't while maintaining temps. Been running at 1.25 the last day or so and the temps are up 3 or 4 degrees over normal. I think I've been getting 6 hours at 1.25 using 4 splits of cherry/elm.
     
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    I really don't know if I can answer this as everyone's set-up is different.
    This is my first year with 3 year "seasoned" wood. Ash, cherry, oak, locust.
    I'm usually 1.25 also. Gives me a max STT 600-650* and will last 4-6 hours depending on outside temps.
    A few times I was down to 1.0 or lower during a recent cold wave. Even had 700* STT's...:bug:

    But today I'm going 1.5 -2.0 trying to get to 600 STT.
    I never had to go this high before and its driving me nuts. I'm getting about 3 hours of good heat then the temp drops off pretty fast. I'm going to let it burn down tomorrow afternoon and clean the cat. I think I have some wood thats not quite dry enough that I just brought in because this is the first problem I've had this year.

    I've noticed that the weather will really effect the air settings. If its raining or real humid I have trouble getting the air set. I'm thinking about getting a barometer to see if i can predict the air settings a little better
     
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  4. HarvestMan

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    You are correct; I don't see it happening either - just a goal to shoot for. Last night I loaded the stove with 4 oak splits @ 11pm with the house at 73, this morning @ 6am the house was down to 69 and outside temp was 5. Subtract 15 degrees outside and I'm sure we are below 68. I have not yet packed the Fireview full but may do this soon to see how much more heat I can get out of a nightly burn.

    Just calculated that we have 180+ square feet of windows on our first floor - while they are all sealed with these 3m kits, the R-value for these must be quite low. Would love to find an inexpensive way to increase the R value for these.
     
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    Wow, that must be a real ball of fire at those settings; don't think I'm going over 1.25. Are the andirons glowing red when you do this?
     
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    Its been mentioned here many times, you can build a small fire in a big stove...
    I also think people read too much into the btu ratings from the manufacturers. IMHO
    An open floor plan makes for easy heating, but if your stove is on the end of your house and you have a long hallway to the master bedroom, that will make it difficult to keep the heat even.
    You get the max output for the first half of the burn cycle, but less and less toward the end of the burn and thats where you run into the problem.
    For me, I only get the house to 69* unless its unseasonably warm. Then I'll get 71-72. But thats the whole house. My heat comes up the steps into the hallway that is central to all the rooms. And I have my air returns open from the livingroom/kitchen back into the basement stove room, so I get good air flow throughout
     
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    How about some real heavy curtains? that would help
     
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    No just the opposite. I'm fighting a clogged cat or not so dry wood. Letting it burn down now then I'll clean the cat and get a big load of kiln dried in there to get it going again
     
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    Not sure about this high maintenance.
    Cat cleanings, yes. Takes about 5-10 minutes and I usually try to clean it at about 3-4 week intervals. Some say to clean after each cord burned. I replaced the scoop this year and the cat last year. My FV was manufactured in 1999, and I dont see any other major maintenance in the near future. 17 years and running strong. I will replace the gaskets this spring around the lid and door. I have them sitting here as I ordered them with the scoop kit last month. Should take less than an hour to replace all the gaskets. Not sure I can call this high maintenance, its been running 5 years trouble free. The guy my brother bought it from didn't heat full time so he did no maintenance the first 12 years.
     
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    Cat is about $150, not sure I can get 6 years though. I think more like 3-4,
    Others may say different. Maybe its because I run it harder
     
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    under full warranty til year fourth year than I think 80%
     
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    4 splits? That's excellent. And 4 splits is 1/2 a load? 2/3? It might maintain at -10F on a full load.
     
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    They are pretty big quarter shaped splits. What seems to happen is I put in four and have more room, but when I try to put in another it is just a bit too big and won't fit between or hits the scoop cover. All this is wood that was split and stacked years ago. I really should re-split some of this with my SS to get more rectangular shapes for better packing and then use the smaller pieces for filling the gaps between splits or at the top. Might try this for tonight's load and actually load the stove completely for the first time; forecast is for 6, but it is generally colder here than where the weather channel gets its data.
     
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    Would I need a ss liner in my chimney to get the fv to run properly? Or would I get by alright with the masonry chimney I have now? I wouldn't mind having a ss liner installed but I'm concerned about cleaning. I have a steel roof with a decent pitch and I can't say I would be excited to go up there, but I know I can clean the masonry chimney from the basement bottom to top
     
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    WS recommends a 6" flue for all their stoves, but
    That doesn't mean it wont work in your masonry setup.
    here is a pdf about flues from their site
    http://www.woodstove.com/pages/guidepdfs/Masonry Chimneys.pdf
     
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    An insulated SS liner in a masonry chimney is always best but not always necessary.
    What are the inside dimensions of your chimney? How tall? Is it an exterior or does it run up the inside of the house?
     
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    It's 7 x 7 it runs up through the middle of the house and I haven't measured the height but to take a guess I would say from where the stove pipes into the chimney to the top would be 18 feet.
     
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    I had $988 in my 6" SS liner installation. That included capping the brick chimney top with SS plate and vermiculite insulation, and some fancy pipe escutcheons inside.
    They also set the stove in place and connected the stove pipe and added a damper and gave their seal of approval to light it up. Also gave me a really cool coal rake that they make
     
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    That's not too bad, but do you have to clean it from the roof?
     
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    I have a clean out inside that i can look up through with a mirror. All I get is some dust and light flaking.
    Cleaning would need done from the top though
     
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