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Fahrenheit Endurnace 50F Project

Discussion in 'Pellet Stoves, Pellet Fireplaces, Pellet Furnaces' started by BAN83, Sep 24, 2015.

  1. DexterDay

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    Most units don't have an air adjustment, they have feed adjustments.

    The 50F is opposite, where it has an air adjustment, but no feed adjustment.

    Either way it's the same exact thing. All you are doing is shooting for the proper fuel to air ratio. Think of the stove like a carburetor. It needs tuned the same way. To much of one or the other, is a bad thing.

    Level 2-5 the furnace runs the exhaust blower at the same speed. So if you get a good burn on level 3, and not on 5, then the air needs increased (on other stoves you would decrease feed).
     
  2. Triple A Arsenal

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    Not sure if I get it, cause in my situation the burn is fine but more pellets need to be fed. So the auger would need to run longer. If I give it more air, flame gets smaller. Give it less air....flame gets bigger but lazy flame and sooty.
     
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    A new unit gets to much air. So you need to back the damper down to find that "Sweet Spot".

    To much is not good. But just do an 1/8" a day. And when the firebox starts to get darker? Open it back up that 1/8".

    It's taken me 5 years of mods, upgrades, and testing to get the most out of mine.

    It's running now and my 2,100 sq ft upstairs is 71° and the basement (900 sq) that is open to the furnace is 65°. I normally run the woodstove downstairs, so it's actually warmer down there, but I was lazy today after coming home from training. So it's heating 3,000 sq on level 4 and it's on fuel mizer tonight (not to cold..). The wood stove does help a lot. Sucking 85° basement air as opposed to 60° or so air has to help it's efficiency
     
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  4. BAN83

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    Hey Ivan, please post any information you have on your sources, assuming they are set up to handle any business that may come their way from the post.
     
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    I have the exact same issue. Everything I have done so far seems to point to the pellets and how fast they burn up. One issue, not related to pellet brand was the mashing of the pellets I had before I adjusted my hopper. I'm 10 times better since I fixed the hopper, but still notice a huge difference in the flame size when burning different pellet types.

    I'm with you on the cherry pits. I'd love to try burning cherry pits. I have no idea where to buy them in bulk though. I was also looking into hazel nut shells. Ontario produces a lot of hazel nuts but haven't had luck finding a processor where I can get some from.

    For being in the heart of corn country I'm not even having luck finding a corn supply!
     
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    See, I agree with what you are saying in theory, but in practice I don't see it. I have the same issue as Triple A, I can get a great burn, but not a good sized flame. It's like the pellets burn too quickly. If I reduce the air I get into a larger but lazy and dirty flame. If I set it where I am getting a good burn, and play with the manual auger feed, or blend in corn, or burn a different pellet, I still get a nice burn but the flame become fuller.

    That being said, I am very new to these stoves, and maybe I just haven't hit that sweet spot. I'm finding my unit especially hard to tune as I have found that the temp outside make such a huge difference in chimney draw. During the -20 weather here I was able to turn the air damper adjustment in quite a bit. The last two days we're into warmer weather and I could probably open it a touch, but I'm not going to.
     
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  7. ivanhoe

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    It could be the softwood not doing justice. Mine was running hot for awhile and all of the sudden I'm getting lower dist, temps? Could be the batch of pellets? I'm still on the Okies. Going down today for a cleaning and switching over to Lacrete's(another softwood pellet). Dex, did you ever adjust the air damper set screw since the big impeller upgrade? I'm about to do it to see if I could slow down the air coming in to have more heat retention.
     
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    LaCrete Pellets:
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    Going by what I found on the stove here, you should be able to dial-back air a fair amount and get great burn from these pellets -
    the ash is so light, it pays to have good visible smoke from the flame tips / to have cloudy glass (grey, not black soot),

    to promote secondary burn -> hold as much heat in the firebox / exchanger as possible (on the stove here).

    Difference in air between LaCrete vs. Granules LG pellets here, at 1.4 lb/hr, is a full 100 RPM on the Combustion blower setting in the stove, 1340 w/ LaCrete (Spruce), 1440 w/ Granules LG (Black Spruce / Grey Pine mix).. The Granules need that extra air to burn the Grey Pine.

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    Suggestion: if the LaCretes are showing a small flame / seem like they are being 'torched', make note of the current damper screw setting, (so you can set it back easily), and try dialing back air a bit.
     
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    That's great info Dex - and exactly the mindset I use when tuning the stove here, just like a motor - this would be a valuable addition to the Sticky thread. :yes:
     
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    Yeah mine is running good, just playing with leftover pellets while weather is still above 10 degrees. Back in the 40's today. House it at 75 degrees, they put out heat but small flame. Same issue as last year, not the furnace for sure. But I can't let a ton go to waste so just using them up.
    Yeah I notice if the temp is up , I switch back to mizer or else even with furnace at idle and Tstat off the house temp rises over the day from thermal heat and then it's too hot in here.
     
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    You are correct, it is a pellet issue. I have a feeling a different fuel type on the LCD will adjust the auger timing and allow more pellets to give that nice size flame. Here is what I did, I took a 1/4 bag of hardwoods that blow the top off the furnace when on level 4 and mixed them with these dud softwoods I have now. It's as though I'm running the good stuff. A little mix amps up the low flame pellets like you wouldn't believe without wasting the good stuff so early in the winter.
     
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    We wanna try something just because we can...ahhh bio fuel. Well I have the vent to burn corn so I might as well. Anyone here have bulk corn ? Looking for some....but not a ton. A small amount to give a try. Willing to pay and ship. Gonna check the pits.....ill let you know.
    Is a pit a pit or is there something to watch for like moisture is to corn?

    Cherry pits suppose to be 9500BTU, hotter than corn.
     
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    My new LUX thermostat came in. Furnace is down after my cleaning and will fire up maybe Sunday night as the temps are going to drop in the double digit negative. Hopper still empty so might fire Lacrete's or the rye seeds?
     
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    DOUBLE DIGIT NEGATIVE:bug::bug::faint:

    Nice which Lux? I put a new one on the oil eater when I first moved in. Has a code lock cause the ladies like it warm.....but my pocket rather be full lol, oil was pricey.
    Just use it for AC now since I gave the 50f it's own right next to it.
     
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    X2 - Fire up those LaCretes !!! :fire:
     
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    LUX TX9001E. I'm aiming for the Lacrete's so you could sleep better tonight:D
     
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    Hey everyone. I finally got mine up and running. Its been running for the last three days, but it seems to need some tuning. There's some soot on the glass and it seems to be eating pellets rather quickly. How do you tune this thing? Is it just messing with the damper on the back? There was also a weird smell that I need to look into. Thanks for your help!
     
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    What serial # are you? It would help to know exactly which model you have as with the changes over the years, they are somewhat different from each other. What heat setting are you running? LED or LCD control panel? Is it you with the upgraded LCD panel?
     
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    correction; LUX TX9100E
     
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    Serial number is 2566. It was an led control panel but it was replaced with an lcd due to the recall.
     
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