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Heating unique homes

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    Yes granite foundation.
     
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    I've considered electric floor heating. Just keep but help thinks it's going to be too expensive.

    Models would be great if I were single. My wife is the one for me.
     
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    I believe we do. The main picture window is two years old. The double hung windows need to be replaced.
     
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    I think I would do the insulating now, and run a portable electric heater for a while. Save up your money, see how well the insulating helps, and then rightsize a split for the now insulated room.

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    That is sound advice. The heating characteristics of the bedroom are bound change after insulating the ceiling. Hopefully the Pelonis heater we use today would be able to keep up with the new heat loss. Plus as you mention heating with the Pelonis this winter would give me more time to select the right solution., and if the Pelonis does the job, I know a mini-split will get it done.
     
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    For a 1-room retrofit, i'd just run an electric baseboard. Everything else is significantly more expensive even if it is more efficient in the long run. Realistically speaking if rates there are similar to what they are here and assuming you will get 'some' heat from other sources, but not enough, you're looking at 20-30 bucks a month in electric for 4 months or so. 100-150 a year in operating costs. It will take a lot of years just to recoup the initial invest overage costs on going with a mini split as it's going to use 80-ish probably itself too anyway. Any 220 would still need to be run so that's a wash. a thermostat and 2 x 10 ft units are under 100 bucks. a mini split is at least 1500 + pro install.

    With a 20 year break even, and by then, new technology would make it throw-away, why bother? for ac? get a window unit for 100 bucks from job lot.
    my .02.
     
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    Interesting. I don't have a problem with electric heat per say. (I should say that my wife does have a major issue with expensive electric bills. Many New Englander's remember the push for electric heat in the 70's which ended up costing my of them a great deal of money. However; with the fluctuation in cost, it does tend to make a bit nervous. 220 is already run to that room. I bought a oil filled electric baseboard that never really worked properly. Can't seem to find the company online anymore. Not surprised there.
     
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    My brother put one in his garage and likes it so far.
    Only rated for between 130-150 sq.ft., though.
     
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    We were also in the oil crisis.. most homes around here built in the later 70s/early 80s are electric. By the late 80s they went back to oil. In the 90s when oil was cheap again, electric people suffered. In the mid 2000s, oil people suffered. someday, NG or propane will probably have it's 'scare' and skyrocket too.

    With electric, at least you have options to offset the cost if the providers go crazy.

    If i were to build a brand new house, it would be electric everything and solar + mini wind mill on the roof with off-grid optional with a day or 2 worth of battery bank, but most of the time run grid-tie without a question.
     
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    Ok, we need some elevation sketches..... Simple sketches. This room above the garage- how much higher than the wood stove is it? Can natural convection be employed, even if you have to throw together a "cold air return?"
    Talk to me, boettg33 :yes:
    Great advice from er'yone so far!:thumbs: