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The truth about BK's

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by fox9988, Dec 20, 2013.

  1. BrowningBAR

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    But a lot less hassle than the Encore that is sitting there right now.
     
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    If that stove comes in at or near the price point they're talking about they're going to sell bunches and bunches of them. I really dig the stove but still wish WS would build a 3+ cubic foot stove using the plain ole technology that is used in the Keystone and Fireview. :)
     
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    That wasn't my question but I'll let it slide since your not feeling well.:emb:
     
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    We can fix that. welder.gif
     
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    Reading and comprehension....not so good right now! :rofl: :lol: I should be sleeping but what can you do!

    I've actually wondered if the stove would work out well in your environment. I think mine works out well since I'm 11xx sq' down and 8xx sq' up. I wonder how well the heat would make it to the other end of a ranch the size of my house. Is the stove centrally located or off to one end of the house? I don't think it would perform and worse than what you have now but swapping out for a stove of similar size I don't think is a slam dunk. Now if the heat load being spread out better is enough to heat your place I'd say it will work out great. Only one way to find out if it's worth price of admission!

    Even if it doesn't outperform during the meat of the winter it will make up for it with hassle free shoulder season burns.
     
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    I completely agree.
     
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    The stove location is almost perfect so that's a big plus. From my reading my house sounds a lot like webby3650's - the garage conversion which I'm planning to do. I just don't know how his insulation is. He has trouble heating that room hence his 2nd stove. I'm thinking of keeping the Mansfield and installing it in that future room or the dining room next to it in the future. Then I know I'll have plenty of BTUs.
     
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    2 stoves instead of 1? Can't go wrong there.....:thumbs:
     
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    Around the beginning of February every year I dream of a well-insulated home with an open floor plan, a center chimney, and the ability to heat an entire home with one stove.
     
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    Back to politics and religion.........:p
    I think we are getting some where, I know I am. I now realize that even BTU's are more efficient than high/lows, should have been obvious.

    Recent posts show the PH will burn long and low.

    The new Steel will bun long and lower.

    A BK will burn long and even lower (no surprise).

    Where is Bogydave? He runs a big a$$ BK in a brutal climate and gives excellent reports. For the record, ( I think) he goes through 4.3 cuft of Birch in as little as 12 hrs in the Worst of conditions, -30F and 50F+ winds. That shows BK's (King) burn limits and it's fire power. 3-4 splits ain't gonna cut it.

    Maybe this thread should have been titled, " The truth about cat stoves" but obviously BK has the reputation of long cat burns.

    More "truth": cat stoves can burn a load in a hurry, AKA make a LOT of heat.
     
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    Well it's your thread but the mob will take it were it wishes.....:drunk:
     
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    Whooaaaa! Easy there big fella. Did somebody step on your precious BK toes? Lol!

    Why all the questions directed to me, if I don't know what I'm talking about?

    Allot of wood to me is, 3 times as much wood used to heat the same size /style house in the same time frame and climate. It doesn't get any clearer to me, but that is just me. Enjoy your 40 hour burns! ;)
     
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    I also REALLY appreciate the fact that we can have this discussion here. It's a hot topic and I would NEVER bring it up on another :whistle:site in fear of persecution/exile.
     
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    Ah men!
     
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    We have been asked many times not to go there so let's not and be happy.
     
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    Being happy........:)
     
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    A cat stove is no different than a non-cat stove when it comes to being sized appropriately for your needs. Look at my situation. I'm going to search out a used King, plus a Princess and a Steel. Will I get 40 hour burns in the dead of winter? No. But I bet get 24+ from the King, 15-20+ from the Princess, and 12+ from the Steel (hard to say at this point, but it looks promising) even in the coldest temps. I will probably burn less wood also since the three stoves can be burned long and low during milder temps as oppose to the hot peak temps I get from the three stoves I currently have (the VC stoves burn better running hot).
     
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    I hope you get what you're looking for, your situation is a lot different than mine and I've learned a new perspective.
     
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    -30 & 50 winds, not sure I could keep the house in the 70s. Don't want to try.
    Wind is the toughest heat conditions to adjust for.

    Worst I had was near 0° with 80 winds, (lost the wood shed roofing & several house shingles.).
    Stove was not enough BTUs to stay in the 70s, 8 hour burns on high & NG furnace kicks in at 66°.
    Have a smart thermostat that kicks the forced air blower on low, every 1/2 hour, for 10 minutes to move air around.
    I did thread with a few wood weights with burn time during some -15° to -20° stuff, no wind.
    Threw some numbers out there for wood BTU.

    IMO, This was the best info from the thread: The stove kept my house near 72° at -20°f, with a full load for 12+ hours.
    My system with my wood
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    I believe the BK King might be way to much stove for some.
    Most in the lower 48 would never burn it hot enough to get the full benefits.
    I'm just a bit farther north than most of our members,
    To use my stove, weather & conditions for lower 48 comparisons would be a stretch.

    Here BK Kings are typically sold out in November , & there's usually a few folks on a waiting list for the next shipment.
     
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    Only directing it at you since you always post they use ALOT of wood without qualifying what ALOT of wood is. You still haven't qualified what ALOT of wood is in a context anyone of us can understand.

    How much wood is 3 times as much? Is that 9 sticks of wood, is that 1 cubic' or 10 cubic', 40 pounds or 100 pounds? What type of space? What type of insulation? What type of chimney? I'm sure you realize it's near impossible to accurately compare installs between different houses.