The truth about BK's

The real point is, I think people read about these long burn times (especially BK because they're so good at it) and expect a 40 hr burn mid-winter. Or my 14 hr everyday burns in the Keystone. That ain't gonna cut it for most folks mid-winter. There is no magic, ok maybe BK does have a little magic, but there is no magic BTU's- they come from wood.

To be honest, this thread has been an eye opener for me. I've never dealt with the stove/room temp swings that have been mentioned. If you like a 75F stove room and you have an 85F stove room for the first 4 hours of a burn, then a 65F stove room for the last 3 hours of the burn, there are a lot of wasted BTU's the first 4 hrs that would be nice to have the last 3 hrs, maybe enough to extend the burn by a few hrs.
Just talkin' stoves. That's all it was about.

 

I've been saying that about the BK's long burns for a while, but most folks don't like hearing that.

 

It's all in how you say it

 

Of course a load of wood only has some many available BTU's, no way around that. Some may think there is some magic what BK offers is a stove that gives the user near total control of the burn and allows you to decide how you want to receive the available BTU's.

I've said before if you don't need to bring temps up in the house a 600-700 degree stove temp isn't needed it's a waste of fuel. I enjoy when people say a BK won't heat well during the meat of the winter, it will heat just fine the only difference is I'll have to load every 12-16 hours instead of 24.

 

The difference is you come across acting like the BK stoves aren't capable of providing enough heat in the coldest part of the winter time. I've seen you post along the lines of "if you live in a warm climate a BK stove would be great". What makes BK stoves the best 24/7 heater is it provides me with the control to decide if I want to torch a load of wood in 30, 12 or 8 hours.

 

OK......good luck

 

Not even close. What I say and am dead correct on is, the BK's burn ALOT of wood when a lot of heat is required, and they do NOT have extended burn times when doing so. What I don't like is you bk guys act as if you can get 40 hour burns while producing heat, and you can't. The long slow burns are awesome, in November and April I'd love to have that ability. But it ain't hapnin in Dec, Jan and Feb. just keepin it real me friend.

 

Correct, but where are the post here that say you can?

Do you know of a stove that can give me easy 12 hour burns when it's cold, 24hr when it's chilly, will maintain a constant house temp, and has a 6" flue other than a BK?

 

Once again you have no idea what you're talking about. You have a "neighbor" who burned a lot of wood in his BK. Do you think everyone online is making up lies about how our stoves perform?

What is a lot of wood? I heat this place on two loads a day during the cold months. I get 12-16 hour burns when it's single digit/teens cold on one load of wood which is 2.85 advertised cubic feet. That's not just enough coals for a relight that's enough coals for the stove to still be in the 300+ degree range and not have the indoor temp move but a degree or two one way or the other. I can't recall ever seeing anyone post a thread about getting a 40 hour burn when it's in the teens or colder. King users post about getting around 24 hours and Princess(free standers) will get around 12 hours give or take a little. Some King users in the colder climates or with a bigger heat load can torch a load of wood in 12 hours.

Please point me in the direction of a stove other than a BK that can burn slow and low while still heating a home when it's cold. I'm always looking for the next best thing, let me know what it is I may just buy it.

 

10 hours in to a partial load of cherry I'm trying to burn the coals down so I can load and go to bed.(I'm sick and don't want to wait) I turned the stove up a bit ago, it's now 496 on the stove top and 566 on the face of the stove, stove room is a ridiculous 82 degrees.

 

The problem here is, we are not talking about a Progress Hybrid. Unfortunately, Alien Technology doesn't create enough BTUs from three sticks to keep a PH owner's house in the 80s overnite. Therefore, Blake Kings burn ALOT of wood.

Y'all should know this by now. If it's a Blaze King discussion, we must have this angle added into it.

 

Just tossed a load of wood in a stove with a top around 500, I hope it don't run away on me! Just kidding!

Machria you seem to understand this stuff pretty well so I have a serious question, can you explain how the King has an efficiency in the 80% range and still use "ALOT" of wood. On the BK site they seem pretty forthcoming with their test results, I don't see many other manufactures posting that type of info.

 

Princess:
Performance

Performance (LHV) Performance (HHV B415)
Maximum heat input 464,042 BTU's 464,042 BTU's
Efficiency 88% 81%
Constant Heat output on High 40,836 BTU's/h for 10 hours 37,587 BTU's/h for 10 hours
Constant Heat output on Low 13,612 BTU's/h for up to 30 hours 12,528 BTU's/h for up to 40 hours

King:

Performance

Performance (LHV) Performance (HHV B415)
Maximum heat input 703,390 BTU's 703,390 BTU's
Efficiency 88% 82%
Constant Heat output on High 51,582 BTU's/h for 12 hours 48,065 BTU's/h for 12 hours
Constant Heat output on Low 15,475 BTU's/h for up to 40 hours 14,419 BTU's/h for up to 40 hour

 

Isn't their a PH owner that's turning 7+ cord of wood to ash per winter? That's a lot of 3 split loads.

 

Wow! I can't imagine doing that!

Do you think a 30 BK will work in my current set up?

 

Oh no, an efficiency argument.

 

It seems like the new Woodstock Steel stove can perform pretty close to a Princess. I don't know about anyone else, but I am happy about that since I need a rear venting cat stove for the Kitchen. I hope a blower is available.

 

Sorry just trying to "understand" how it can be efficient and burn ALOT of wood.

 

I agree, I don't think it's going to burn as hassle free on "low" as a BK stove though.

 

I imagine they do, I can't see the new models having less control than my old ugly Princess.