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Why is porting necessary?

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by bushpilot, Jun 28, 2015.

  1. Machria

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    Here is my answer:

    That was easy! :D

    Take the catalytic converter off of a US car, and it will perform better. But it will also pollute more, which is why they are required in the US by law. Another law that was pushed on us because of the Euro's complaining about America polluting. Yet, 30 years later Euros are still not required to use Catalytic converters on their cars!
     
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  2. Machria

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    cg, can you post a shot of that Dolmar's other side?
     
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  3. pantelis

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    Yeah the Europe dont pollute ................................... they pollute the same as the America or other idustrial countries do. I think that the EPA is right a ported chainsaw even if its ported with the top notch technology , will pollute much more that the nuclear weapons that europe, america ,russia have test on the earth.
     
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  4. pantelis

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    upload_2015-7-15_22-53-42.jpeg I want to ask the EPA or others like EPA if this will be catastrophic for the environment.
     
  5. concretegrazer

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    Pictures are environmentally friendly.;)
     
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  6. jon1212

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    A properly modified work chainsaw, is a balance of optimal performance, without sacrificing integrity or longevity.

    I've talked to a few known saw builders, and the general consensus seems to be, "achieve maximum gains while removing as little material as possible".

    Basically, a well done saw is more better.
     
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  7. cgraham1

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    Best I can do right now. :D
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  8. jon1212

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    Nice bar, Clint.
     
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  9. Kevin in Ohio

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    The EPA real agenda is not getting the environment cleaner. It is to give themselves more power and grow in size. Then get more power and grow in size. Then get more power and.......

    It was udder lunacy trying to deal with them in my former job. No thought out plans, just knee jerk reactions and mandates that changed before you could comply with no consideration of the costs they caused.
     
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    Thanks. I got it from a dirty hippie over in Utah. :thumbs:
     
  11. Minnesota Marty

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    Kevin in Ohio,
    You nailed it man. It is not about cleaning the environment. It is about growing the size of government. In my business, in the last 20 years I have witnessed the size of government grow in size 3 fold. We have inspections on installing a silt fence. It is done by a young engineer who they probably pay 65 to 75k per year. All he does is inspect construction site silt fences. He is so over the top it is comical. One day, after he approved my install, I looked him square in the eye and I asked him, " Are you proud of what you do?" Needless to say, he was taken aback by that and hasn't talked to me since. Past everyone of my sites because I have never did it wrong and I don't need him to tell me how to do. You find where the water is going to drain and you protect the run off from happening. Its not complicated. His job is EPA mandated on the city. Per the head building inspector whom I have know for 25 years and help him build his own house.
    They don't want to manufacture the chain saw but they want to control who does.
    I better stop before I really tick somebody off.
     
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  12. Hedgerow

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    You won't..
    We don't mind...

    And I'll be running tuned saws as long as I am able..
    And I want C Grahm's tech lite..
     
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  13. Kevin in Ohio

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    Sounds like they are all the same and I KNOW your frustration. I had an issue here at the farm with runoff from a large hill that had a township road on it. Township road dead ended into county road and my property on both sides. Salt was killing off crops more and more every year and it was up to over 1 acre with stunting on over 2 acres. Township said they couldn't do anything and county said it was townships fault. All I wanted was for them to put a storm sewer in and I'd connect it to a field tile. County AG extension agent came out with out of college. His first idea was to cut 5 inch deep slots in the road to divert water to the sides. Told them that wouldn't help as it seeps out n the field. EPA rep then wanted to build a diversion ditch along road frontage that would eat up 7 acres. Basically a 80 ft wide grass buffer. I said all I need is a ditch running to a field tile. EPA guy if I do that it could get into the groundwater supply. I then asked him where exactly do you think it is going now as there are no creeks in a 1 mile radius of here? Silence. Newbie then said water runs this way. I looked at the county rep and put my foot into the wet soil and said. I didn't go to college but it looks like the water is running they way I said it does as the muddy water headed out into the field. Rep laughed out loud and he stormed off. Ended up pulling some strings at the county and they put in a storm drain which I then put in field tile to connect to with a dike wall. 3 years and crops grew back but no compensation for losses. There whole excuse during this was they didn't have the funds to fix it. Try that excuse with the EPA if you are on the other end and see how that works for you. SUCH a double standard.

    People have no idea how many products are not being made or developed because instead of asking if people will buy this, they have to ask will we get sued over this. Trust me, that is for real.

    I personally don't have a ported saw but have nothing against them and love seeing the guys who do have them scream through a piece. People always want something better and that is what I "thought" America was originally founded for. Seems a lot now forget or want you to forget that.

    I'm fed up with government anymore as in 3 years they have doubled my property taxes. I had a barn totalled out due to storm damage and filed for reassessment which was a lot of paperwork. Ended up being $500.00 less on the $9500 bill. 2 days ago I get a registered letter and the local school district is going to fight it as they want it to stay the same. Now I have to refile all the paperwork and more on a judgement that was allready approved by the county. Oh yeah same school passed their levy along with a provision that it is now permanent and can NEVER be lowered.

    I'm ranting but I'm getting real sick of having to pay for everyone else. Sorry guys.
     
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  14. Fifelaker

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    Does anybody know what oil ratios the manufactures recommend in the countries that sell the 288 or the 361? My line of thinking is the epa is the ones mandating the use of 50:1 instead of 40 or 32:1, and hindering the folks from making a better(factory ported product) Not that many years ago the manufactures recommended thicker mixtures (I may remember 16:1) I hate to turn this into an oil thread but I think it may shed some light onto weather or not the epa has the manufactures by the short hairs.
     
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    Matt,

    I picked up a couple of those 28" TechLite's here on clearance at our regional Ranch supply(they switched to Stihl). Along with a standard Husqvarna branded 28". It was just under $60 out the door for all three bars.
     
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    Thats a "you suck" price!!!
     
  17. jon1212

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    Yes, it definitely was a good deal.

    The TechLite's went to Weaverville CA, and Desha AR. I run the standard 28" on the 395 I bought from Wigglesworth.
     
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  19. redRover

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    I'm sure that the EPA has something to do with it, but I think some of it is also improved oil quality for specific applications and better manufacturing that needs less lubrication. Outboard motors, for instance, have dropped from 16:1 for early ones to 50:1 for 90s ones, to 100:1 or less today, even as fuel consumption has decreased (though complexity has up, as has weight to some extent). Running standard 30wt motor oil you might still need 16 or 32 to 1, but if you have a proper modern oil, you don't need nearly as much.
     
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  20. shorthunter

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    The firewood cutters I know are young and a little wreckless. The louder and faster the better. I sold a close friend of mine a dolmar 116si that I couldn't stand to run because it made my ears bleed. He likes the way it sounds.

    To answer the ops question, porting is completely unnecessary.Just like putting headers on a car or swapping cams, or putting a pipe and programmer on a 1000cc sport bike.