Be a great lead for a newspaper or a local news cast "Home owner charged for conserving energy" Local gas company fines ($$) area residents for reducing propane usage "
I too have propane and the last couple years have had to pay a $100 rental when I don't reach the usage threshold. There is a bit of pressure on the propane companies around here as Consumers energy is trying to have NG installed in my area. Today, my propane company called and told me I would not be charged the rental fee if I simply filled my tank; this worked out fine for me as it only amounts to about 200 gallons. Switching over to NG does not make sense as the payoff would be about 20 years at my given consumption rate. I do not mind paying the $100 rental as I just don't see a cheaper alternative for replacing the propane. If you put yourself in the propane providers shoes, you likely would see the picture a bit differently. Of course, you could always buy a tank and then buy from the low cost provider in your area; perhaps I should look into this, the last time I checked I think it was about $1200 but that might have been a decade ago ... oh how time flies.
Betting buying a used tank is getting cheaper as NG gets more & more accessible & cheaper. Check service / test dates etc, thinking they need pressure tested & certified every 5 or 10 years. NG is putting lot of pressure on other fuel sources.
If you use that little why not just install a 50-100 gallon tank. No way it would cost that much. They just fill it more often or either the same amount as you probably do partial fillups as is?
Natural gas in a new modern well insulated home just about means wood burning will be more nostalgic than to save money since now its so cheap. Of course if your home is that efficient and you have a modern stove you probably won't use much wood either?
Also in SE MI, consumers came through last fall and ran NG. I tapped in even though there is zero payoff for me to do it. It will help with resale should I ever sell and I won't feel bad installing a gas oven/range for the wife since she hates cooking on electric. I will upgrade the furnace in the next few years which will also have zero payoff as long as I heat with wood.
Heating with wood is a way of life- not many go that route - come sell the house time ( you or heirs) the NG will make a big difference ( based on todays standards). Additionally most insurance companies require a conventional? heat source in our colder climates. ( Most do not consider wood heat conventional ) Not being able to get insurance because of the heat source is not going to sit well with mortgage companies - under writer likely wouldn't go for it. My NG furnace is the back up plan to my wood heat. I turn it on once or twice a year for just a bit to make sure it is still functional. In my place stove top, hot water heater,dryer are NG - Oven is electric - costs to much to switch - For the very little I use it no payback - someone else can incur the $2-3 grand of replacement cost, if it were to give up the ghost I would look around for a used gas unit or just do with out.
Wow... good thing I get the friends and family discount from my LP supplier, perks of working for the same company back in my co-op days. But I know there tank rent is $1 a year, minimum order is 150 gallon in a 1000 gallon tank, not sure what it is on smaller tanks but it is pro rated to tank size. I'd tell them to come pick up there tank, and give them a time frame of when to get it. Find a 200, 250 or 500 gallon tank ( I just bought a used 200 for $150 last winter) then price shop for LP. You don't use a lot of gas so no need for contracts. LP suppliers are scrabbling to stay afloat right now, usage keeps going down, large users (ag and commercial) are starting to haul there own LP from the pipe line, and NG is be coming more available. So we consumers will see more of these bogus charges, and inflated rates. Sucks for those that will be stuck using LP. Everyone is about energy efficiency these days, when I started building shops 20 years ago insulation was a perk, in the walls a R-3 was the norm and a R-21 was overkill. In the ceiling again R-3 was the norm and R-20 was insane. Today walls are R-20 to R-30 and ceiling is R-30 is minimum and R-60 is not unheard of. All in hopes of keeping energy costs down. Heat sources where always LB white hanging heaters, today it's a lot of in floor radiant, geothermal, and air makeup units are becoming more and more seen.
For a water heater and a clothes dryer, 2 - 100# tanks would be just fine. I've seen them around (new) for about $100 and that was at Lowe's. No contract, no problems. Shopping around for any fuel type is only a few minutes on the phone and very much worth it.
Not sure how it works for everyone, but in my case, my cost just for the pipeline extension was to be about $5000 plus $200 hookup. Also, it is $10/foot if the home is over the max offset from the pipeline extension. I never actually did all the calculations as I don't expect Consumers to get enough homeowners to opt in to have the project go through (last letter I received said they had 27 of 77 households needed to have the project go through). Would love to have NG, just not at such a high price.
I'd track down their corporate email address or even snail mail address and send a reverse nasty gram. A lot of times if they think they are about to lose a customer they do their best to make it right. It used to work that way. Nowadays, ya never know
There is NO WAY I would buy another drop of propane from that company. I would explore your other options, some good suggestions on here. Out of principle, I could not bring myself to pay a low usage fee--even if that meant that it would cost me more money somewhere else, which is doubtful. Seems to me, they don't appreciate you as a customer.
Spam servers usually dont allow mail in just out. You need to find there customer service address probably like info@ pro pain.com or something? Or if small bussness might be like customersercice@ or like guys name@
