In loving memory of Kenis D. Keathley 6/4/81 - 3/27/22 Loving father, husband, brother, friend and firewood hoarder Rest in peace, Dexterday

Ah hah moment.

Discussion in 'The Wood Pile' started by mike bayerl, Apr 5, 2015.

  1. mike bayerl

    mike bayerl

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2014
    Messages:
    3,924
    Likes Received:
    22,439
    Location:
    Central PA
    A nautical mile is essentially 1 arc second along a great circle of the earth. Boats and airplanes have the freedom to travel along great circles; therefore, nautical miles are very simple for navigation in boats and planes.
     
  2. Oldman47

    Oldman47

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2015
    Messages:
    1,798
    Likes Received:
    6,501
    Location:
    Illinois
    Agreed but the question was why was it defined in terms of so many inches. It never has been. It started out as 1/1000 of a kilometer and a kilometer was 1/10,000 the distance from pole to equator. Add the 3 zeros and a meter was basically defined a 1/10,000,000 the distance from the pole to the equator. The beauty of metric is never having to deal with 1/4, 1/8, 1/2, 12, 36, 5280 etc. and let's not even talk about things like rods, bushels, pecks, dry and wet quarts or dry and wet gallons. BTW how many feet and inches in a nautical mile? You just add and subtract zeros to make conversions in metric measure.
     
    wildwest and Horkn like this.
  3. XXL

    XXL

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2014
    Messages:
    2,933
    Likes Received:
    15,689
    Location:
    Ontario, Canada
    [​IMG]


    Add the US Military/Navy and AF to the green map too

    ;)
     
    wildwest and Horkn like this.
  4. mike bayerl

    mike bayerl

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2014
    Messages:
    3,924
    Likes Received:
    22,439
    Location:
    Central PA
    Add to that, science and medicine in the U.S. It's all I ever use at work, every day. However, back in engineering school we had to be able to use both SI and US Customary units. Car engines in Detroit make horsepower, not kilowatts. Then again, engineers are still programming in Fortran 77 (as in 1977!)
     
    wildwest and Horkn like this.
  5. bogydave

    bogydave

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2013
    Messages:
    10,313
    Likes Received:
    37,218
    Location:
    Alaska, North of Anchorage & South of Fairbanks
    Yea
    I googled it too.
    Hard to believe the French , in 1793 the measured accuracy to 1 / 10,000,000
    & came up with a meter. (metre) the distance from equator to the (ever moving) north pole . ;)

    0, 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64
    0, 1 , 10, 100, 1000 , 10000 , 100000
    _100001

    World has gone from decimal to binary then converted to what ever numerical system you want (


    Yea
    be nice to have one "logical" standard.

    But it's ok to be different too.
    In reality the USA uses both, maybe the only country that can :yes:
     
    Last edited: Apr 6, 2015
  6. lukem

    lukem

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    11,826
    Likes Received:
    63,208
    Location:
    IN
    'Merica.
     
    HDRock, Deacon, Horkn and 2 others like this.
  7. Horkn

    Horkn

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2014
    Messages:
    28,526
    Likes Received:
    161,313
    Location:
    SE Wisconsin
    I'll start doing everything in cubitpints with nautical miles, inch meters, and fathoms. Then I'll convert from us horsepower to euro HP figures because those are not even the same.
     
    wildwest likes this.
  8. dgeesaman

    dgeesaman

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2014
    Messages:
    662
    Likes Received:
    1,952
    Location:
    Elizabethtown, PA
    That got me at work once because a crew came in with laser inspection equipment to measure whether a machine was shifting when we performed maintenance on it. They said it was accurate to two thousandths. Came to learn later that it was surveying gear quoting in feet, not inches. Boo.
     
    wildwest likes this.
  9. schlot

    schlot

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2013
    Messages:
    5,244
    Likes Received:
    30,394
    Location:
    NW Iowa
    0.0833 feet is an inch so 0.002 feet is pretty darn good for elevation differential.

    What kind of equipment is it?
     
    wildwest likes this.
  10. billb3

    billb3

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2013
    Messages:
    10,318
    Likes Received:
    53,269
    Location:
    SE Mass
    That's a pretty map but I'm not quite so sure what their metric is as the U.K. still uses Imperial units.
    Not for everything, just as in the U.S.A.
    If monetary units are the metric then that big red country went metric a very long time ago.
     
    wildwest likes this.
  11. dgeesaman

    dgeesaman

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2014
    Messages:
    662
    Likes Received:
    1,952
    Location:
    Elizabethtown, PA
    I don't recall - Leica perhaps. I think they fixed prisms to the machine and their laser tracked the movement. The point was we really were looking for movement on the order of .005", and the whole exercise turned out to be a waste because of a miscommunication.

    David
     
    wildwest likes this.
  12. schlot

    schlot

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2013
    Messages:
    5,244
    Likes Received:
    30,394
    Location:
    NW Iowa
    Impressive. That's on the order of a width of a human hair!

    What kind of equipment are you using that needs a tight tolerance like that?
     
    wildwest likes this.
  13. fuelrod

    fuelrod

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2014
    Messages:
    3,492
    Likes Received:
    20,401
    Location:
    Western Maine
    I use cold, friggin cold, nice, really nice, hot and friggin hot! :rofl: :lol:
     
    HDRock, wildwest and schlot like this.
  14. unclefess

    unclefess Guest

    my screen name was given to me by a friend , the uncle part , because im 47 and act 67 because i am set in my ways and the fess part because i was trying to use festool power tools from germany and the metric adjustments made me nuts.
     
    HDRock, wildwest and Horkn like this.
  15. yooperdave

    yooperdave

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2014
    Messages:
    34,293
    Likes Received:
    212,442
    Location:
    Michigan's U.P.
    And here I thought that you just ran out of space when you were trying to type out "Uncle Fester"!
    upload_2015-4-7_6-37-40.jpeg
     
    HDRock, wildwest, Horkn and 1 other person like this.
  16. DaveGunter

    DaveGunter

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2013
    Messages:
    3,894
    Likes Received:
    22,936
    Location:
    Far Away Ranch, Meadowbrook Forest
    Metric vs. non-metric, use whatever is convenient it is kinda silly when you consider how the whole world measures the aspect of life that affects every individual every day the most..time

    Really 365.25 units in a year, each divided into 24 parts, subdivided into 60 and subdivided by 60 again, and yet we talk about decades, and centuries and millennia, and generations, and quarter hours, and milliseconds, and...and...and
     
    wildwest and Horkn like this.
  17. Lumber-Jack

    Lumber-Jack

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2013
    Messages:
    403
    Likes Received:
    1,458
    Ha!
    Dave you obviously haven't spent much time in Canada.

    I remember well when Canada started converting to the metric system, USA was beginning to convert so Canada felt it should as well . Anybody who works strictly within the metric system can see the logic and benefits and how much easier it is to work with. It's the converting back and forth between Metric and Imperial systems that generally causes a headache. I remember we had to learn how to do these conversions and thinking %$#@ that, if we are going to convert to Metric, lets just do away with the old Imperial system and we don't have to keep getting those headaches calculating between Imperial and Metric all the time. However there was one major problem, our nearest neighbors and biggest international trade partners decided it was too hard for them to convert to Metric so they backed out. That left Canada in the lurch, we could no longer longer convert over to Metric, completely. So what happened is we got stuck in with the perpetual headache of having to convert back and forth on a daily basis because the US failed to get with the program. They are in fact the only country that couldn't!
     
    wildwest and Horkn like this.
  18. sherwood

    sherwood

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2013
    Messages:
    980
    Likes Received:
    1,917
    Location:
    Big RIdeau Lake, Southern Ontario
    I love bushels of apples and pecks of berries. 5 gallon bottles of water is so much nicer that 18 liters. My feet measure distance nicely. Easy peavey to measure stacks by multiplying fractions: 3/2'x 16'x5' for 18 " lengths, 4/3 x16 x 5 for 16" lengths. Quarts USED to be fun: 4 cups in the US 5 in Canada, which makes baking adventurous : until we went to liters.
    We measure distance in kilometers, not miles, but buy gas in liters and are given mileage of cars in liters/100 KM, rather than miles/liter:hair: Don't even talk about liters of gas: $1.24 /liter? As in $4.40 a gallon.

    I like my acreage, and don't want hectarage, if that word even exists.

    I don't want to cut my pies into tenths. A slice of pie is 1/8 of a pie. If there are nine people at the table, I want two pies.

    My dog is 42 pounds. He's no sissy 19 Kg. 225 grms of wool? Really? Cold cuts and cheese at $3.00 per 100 grms? Just tell me you want $13.50 a pound.

    It's four miles around the square, three miles to Portland, and 23 to Smiths Falls, 45 to the Thousands Islands Bridge, 70 miles to Ottawa, 380 to Westchester and 400 to NYC. 1250 miles from NYC to Sarasota, 3000 miles to the West Coast.

    So, go ahead and use the metric system. Just don't take my heritage away from me. :handshake:
     
    wildwest, TurboDiesel and Horkn like this.
  19. Horkn

    Horkn

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2014
    Messages:
    28,526
    Likes Received:
    161,313
    Location:
    SE Wisconsin
    Did someone say "pie"?
     
  20. sherwood

    sherwood

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2013
    Messages:
    980
    Likes Received:
    1,917
    Location:
    Big RIdeau Lake, Southern Ontario
    My speciality: Strawberry-Rhubarb-Raspberry in a sweet crust. Died and gone to heaven pie.
     
    wildwest likes this.