You took the words right out of my mouth, that's why I usually just file the chains. I only paid $25 for it It turned out to be a bunch of crap in there ,nails and pieces of fence I took a look around the chain and didn't see any chipping but ,it shure don't cut so pretty good now I think, Maybe that 445 is jinxed, I had a new full chis on it before, used it 3 times and threw the chain , chewed up drive links, IDK but I my be able to do some filing on that and use it again, what do ya think ?
Worst thing is hand sharpening a long bar and then first cut,,, metal... I took a tree job on, red Maple years ago, 40 ft, trunk wood DBH was about 28 inches.. I gave a price. Came back to do the job, setting up my lowering figure 8 ascender and choker sling around the base to lower limbs I see a lawn sprinkler, ugh! Now everything has to be lowered ... OK, I have a big false crotch set up so I can also lower all the trunk wood onto itself so as not to damage the sprinkler system... Much more work... so I have 10 feet or so of trunk left that I will drop on top of wood laid out... Wouldn't you know it,, I must have attempted 4 or 5 back cuts before I finally didn't hit hardware. I had to sharpen my chain like 5 times to just drop the trunk , not having extra chain. I was running a Stihl AVE 051 at the time with a 21 inch bar , .404 chain, a cutting beast.. That's my sad story and I'm sticking to it I've seen the hardware too...
You oughtta see what railroad spikes in a tree will do to a chain....Not one chain, but THREE 28" full chisel RSC chains.......trashed.... Happened to me around 4 years ago on a huge ash tree we did. Somebody put a treestand or cabin up in that tree eons ago, and I was the lucky guy to bid the job to fell it.... They were grown into the tree COMPLETELY, probably 6-8" of overgrowth over those spikes.....good thing was, the homeowner was nice enough to pay for those three 28" loops on top of the bid price to compensate my chain loss..... I should have saved at least ONE of those chains for perspective....
There was this 24" Black Walnut blowdown stump about 6 ft long laying down at edge of woods on north side of parents church parsonage.I wanted to see if it was worth getting.Wanted to make a bench for the church front yard if wood was still sound.So finally after a couple years since first seeing it,I started to work on it one day in September 2012.I cut the stump free,then ripped it just past the middle.I hadn't seen the bunch of old chain link that had grown into the tree on one side decades before,since that was on bottom side.... No problems cutting it from the roots,or splitting the log.Bench top was roughly 4 feet long,remaining log was to be cut in two pieces for the legs. That's where the fun began....about half way through one piece I hit a bunch of that chain link. *sigh* Almost new 28" skip chain (about $30) .Managed to finish it,then went home to get my spare full chisel...Luckily didn't hit any more of the stuff.If I'd made my initial ripping cut just a couple inches to the center,that would've ruined the entire chain & not just buggered up 4-5 cutters.Took a little while but got them back to working order,though today that chain is finally pretty much toast - so many filings most are same length,but those 5 or so that were hit the worst are a bit shorter than the rest.Not a lot of life left,plus its pretty 'grabby' lately.Finally retired it 3 weeks ago after that doing that big old Apple tree,its now hanging on wall of shed - will be used for nasty stuff or some old stump one of these days then tossed in recycling bin. Bench turned out great inspite all that though,used 130yr old Scottish cast iron panel plane,antique beech mallet,2 heavy chisels/gouges,drawknife & vintage 1940's aluminum bodied curved flexible rasp to finish it up...I figure it'll still be around after I'm compost...
You know guys. I've heard of cutting to the point, but I think your taking it a little to far when you go searching for metal in the wood.
Man I hate that ! I junked a chain last spring on a piece of rebar a tree grew over bam and the chain flew off ! It was new too.
Charlie, we have a saw that we use at the fire dept that can cut a car in half, it has a carbide chain, you should get one !
That's funny, cuz right after the mishap I thought to myself I should have had a carbide chain, ha, as I have cut through metal with carbide tooling in the wood shop but carbide chain costs the bucks
It's a rescue saw. Saw one a couple weeks ago at the Stihl dealer. Think it was about $1500. First thought I had was that no nail is going to stop this bad boy. I don't think those carbide teeth would do well on wood, though.
Chain must be big money.. I know Baileys sold carbide chain,, I guess you have to watch as some of it is junk the way the carbide is applied to the chain... Woody, glad to see you here,,, it's nice having another good person on this site..