Progress owners, give me a hand here!

I want to see what this thing will do on a full load and burned low.

I understand that the stove works fine for you loading half loads and getting 8-12 hour burns. I am trying to determine my future purchases. The Woodstock Steel stove just showed that a 24 hour burn of usable heat is possible.

The Progress can not be that far behind. For some of you owners, I know you are in the northeast and can still experience milder days over the next two weeks. Can anyone test this out for me?

Get creative with your splits. Figure out the best way you can pack it full and clamp it done before the secondaries kick in.

What is the actual difference between the Progress and the Steel?
Can you have a dead looking box like the Steel shows on a low burn?
Will the secondaries kick in at some point or can you maintain control throughout the burn?

Thanks!

 

If someone wants to be "scientific" and do a head to head comparison with my recent burn in the Woodstock Ideal Steel stove, I'll give you enough of my 3"x6" dimensional oak blocks to fill your Progress firebox for a long low burn. (Just split the shipping costs with me and I'll get it out to you.)

 

I might ship you some pine. It will help some understand what they can expect out of it.

 

I've started my hunt for used BK stoves. It will take several months to track down good used options. By that time, the Steel should be available and maybe Woodstock's refurbished sale will take place.

In a perfect world, I'll find a used King/Princess for a good price, buy a refurbished Progress, and buy a new Steel stove all at the same time. Those planets will never allign like that for a variety of reasons, some of which would be financial.

But, a boy can dream.

 

Problem is, you would prefer one over the other two, and be right back in the market for two more stoves

 

I think I could live with a Kind/Prgress/Steel combo for a long time. Like two, maybe even three, years!

 

Is that like an all time record for you?

 

Yep!

I am on year one of not changing stoves. ONE!

 

Seriously, though. Progress owners, let's load those bastards up and shut them down. Give me a report!

 

That oak isn't kiln dried...not supposed to be shipping wood.....

 

They make pallets out of it and ship stuff on those pallets all over the country so how could shipping a box full of the same stuff be a problem?!?

 

Never heard that. I framed hundreds of houses out of Spruce and Fir that was shipped in, non kiln dryed.

 

Firewood not supposed to be shipped. Also, I thought all pallets that were shipped over county lines had to be either heat treated or kiln dried. So had taken it as a given, since the oak was pallet wood, that it had been kiln dried...hence my earlier reference to it being kiln dried. But, since it isn't, it really should not be shipped as firewood. We have enough darn diseases around....Risk is incredibly low, if the wood is shipped, and then burned without being stacked outdoors...still, there are laws about transporting firewood.

 

Pallets have to be kiln dried or heat treated to be shipped. Or they may be able to use chemicals, I believe. But if chemicals are used, then the pallets should not be burned in a cat stove. So, check the pallets you pick up if you have a cat. The method of treating the pallet has to be stamped on the pallet.

 

There are bans against moving firewood in some areas and generally it's not smart to move firewood more than about 25 miles unless you understand the possible implications/risks. The issue generally is that people moving the firewood are not educated enough as to what parasites might be moving along with the wood. Asian Longhorned Beetle came to central Mass in shipping pallets. Had the pallets been heat treated, the ALB wouldn't have been introduced to central MA and tens of thousands of trees would not have had to be cut down. Fortunately, a quarantine zone was put into place fairly quickly which stopped the spread. Had people cut and moved firewood from the quarantine area to outside it, the New England sugar maple industry could have been threatened. The issue with moving firewood is that many people cut freshly killed standing dead trees. These fresh killed trees often still contain the same bugs, fungi or disease that killed them in the first place. Emerald Ash Borer can still be alive in a tree for two years after the tree dies. So, why is it that loggers can put a load of logs on a truck in PA and send them to a sawmill in Canada? Because the trees were cut alive and healthy and allegedly the people dealing with the forest products are professionals and know what signs to look for when selling/cutting/shipping logs. In my opinion, if BBar and Brian were to exchange firewood and shipped it across the state of PA, and if they ensured that the wood didn't have any kinds of parasites and went from box to stove, there would be zero chance of introducing a new parasite across the state of PA.

 

I just want to see a report on a Progress packed full and run low. I will hand deliver wood in a locked, steel, fireproof box if needed.

 

Gotta be hermitically sealed too. By real hermits.

 

Consider it done! Just get the damm Progress owners on here and finally ready to pack the bastard full!

 

I don't want to entirely discount what Sherwood said. White pine weevil, gypsy moth caterpillar, emerald ash borer and dutch elm disease were all introduced from foreign lands because of a lack of oversight of moving products internationally. No doubt, the spread of EAB has been hastened by people moving firewood, however the argument can be made that the spread of EAB is inevitable now that it made it to the US and was not immediately eliminated. When people are told to do things, it's important to explain the "why". If one doesn't take the time to educate, people won't change their ways since they don't know any better.. This is definitely an interesting point of discussion.