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Newbie... Need Install Advice For Farenheit Endurance

Discussion in 'Pellet Stoves, Pellet Fireplaces, Pellet Furnaces' started by Triple A Arsenal, Sep 25, 2014.

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  1. ZachGrant

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    Where does your ignitor sit? I've been trying to figure up a way to convert mine to auto ignition
     
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    Here ya go

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    I asked the guys at Fahrenheit if it could be done as I have one of the original manual ignition units also. The verdict was that yes, it is possible. Its just cost prohibitive to do in my opinion. It would take a new burn pot assembly, control board and adding an igniter.

    I spend about 20 minutes a month relighting the furnace (usually two shutdowns per month to empty the ash pan and give it a quick clean, takes 10 minutes from tossing the match until it's running on its own). Gives me something to do while drinking a beer. :)
     
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    I was thinking about doing something along the lines of just using a relay to turn the ignitor on whenever the vacuum switch was met, then a another to turn it off whenever the p.o.f switch is made.

    My biggest setback is mounting the ignitor. I was trying to see if it sat in a way that I could make it work with my style burnpot.
     
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    And that's a good thing :cheers:
     
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    The biggest problem to get around would be retrofitting an igniter that wouldn't interfere with the self clean mechanism on our style furnace. The only way I can think of that it would work would for it to be under the pot assembly, but there isn't a whole lot of room under there to do much.
     
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    Same style burn pot, yes... But I plugged many of the holes that are unneeded. Unless you're burning a biomass that builds a clinker and needs all those unnecessary upper holes? But pellets mainly burn out and become fly ash. What stays in the pot ets cleaned out every 9-10 hrs.

    So I plugged a lot of my holes with 2,000° furnace cement. Then let it dry and scraped the plates flat.

    Here is what they look like filled..

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    And what it looks like after scraping..

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    I also put gaskets in the back of the burn pot plates and gaskets on the top of the burn pot receptacle. The burn pot hardly moves now and has almost zero burn pot bypasses.

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    I also filled the 5 holes up in the side of the bottom burn plates.

    Here is your pic and what I filled.

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    Can the plates slide in the 2 holes if the gasket is there?
     
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    What plates do you speak of?
     
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    The ones you outlined in my pic, they each have 2 nipples that slide into 2 holes. Your gaskets looks like they cover the holes in the pot frame.

    You can see the holes in this pic. Looks like you installed the gaskets on the frame where the holes are.

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    My pot is version 3, and your is version 4. I didn't see that difference on the print. But it's obvious now. You couldn't gasket the top. It wouldn't make sense to only do the center section and leave 2 gaps on the end.

    All I did to the pot. Is what most manufacturers did when they had a corn stove but had a pellet pot for it as well. The difference between a corn pop and a pellet pot, is a corn pot has numerous holes from the bottom all the way to the top. To allow the build up of a clinker. A pellet pot has all the holes at the bottom directing all the air up into the pellets to help eject the fly ash and keep the pot clean.
     
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    Got the hinge tight, they are hex head screws that thread into the hinge. I did all 4 while I was in there. Removed ALL the top panel screws and opened hopper lid. Lifted up enough to hand tighten then tool tighten.


    Tool of choice....
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    With temps in the 40's this week, does anyone switch to Fuel Mizer mode?
     
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    My cutoff temp is 30°. Below 30° I run the furnace in Tstat. Above that? I normally run my Freestanding Enerzone Eurostar pellet stove upstairs. But I would use Fuel Mizer is the Fahrenheit was my only stove.

    When the ignitor went out on my Enerzone this year, I used Fuel Mizer. But I rarely run it above 30°-32°.
     
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    I switched to Fuel Mizer and saw the countdown was 60 minutes. I was home today and don't think the furnace ran at all. It hit a high of 46 degrees outside. Gonna see how it goes in this mode this week. Does anything change by doing this?
     
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    No. Just that the furnace will idle for one hour. After an hour, it shuts down until the need for heat is called for again.

    When it's colder, the furnace will shut down, and almost immediately restart after shutdown. Which wastes pellets because the furnace runs on level 5 (start up) for the first 25 minutes.

    You need to find the outside temp that suites you best. Where the furnace will shut down for at least an hour. Because if it's not down for more than an hour? It's really not worth it shutting down. The furnace will use less pellets idling for an hour than starting up and running to produce heat.
     
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    I might if I had it. :)

    I'm running in my ultra pellet saving mode (Fahrenheit is shut down). The wood stove will be handling my evening heating needs this week, with a dash of oil furnace here and there during daytime hours. The pellet furnace gets dirty quick idling on low all day. The oil furnace has only run maybe an hour all season. I figure it wouldn't hurt to burn off some of the crap that is probably on the bottom of the tank.
     
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    I like your mode better....now only if it could produce some kind of stored heat while in the Ultra Pellet Saving mode lol.
     
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    Maybe a Mr. Fusion Home Energy Reactor like what was on The DeLorean in Back to the Future 2? :)

    Guess what I watched last night.
     
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