I have a '13 ram 1500 sport with the 5.7 hemi 8 speed auto. The engine is spunky and it gets about 15 mpg local and mid 20s when I use it as a commuter. It has coil springs on all wheels so the ride is commfortable but it can still haul a load. KaptJaq
My old 99 Dodge Dakota extra cab 4X2 with the 5.2 V8 5spd would get 20-22mpg. It was a sweet truck with tons of nuts. Wish I'd have kept it. Traded it in and let it go for a song. Should have kept it, and I'd still have it today.
70 % of new cars in europe are diesel. Sadly GM ruined the diesel market here in the US in the late 70's and early 80's with their oldsmobile and Chevy/GMC truck diesel conversions. Those soot belching underpowered pieces of junk only lasted about 30,000 miles and pretty much left a lasting impression on their owners. But, times have changed. Turbos and Direct injection and now high pressure fuel pumps and Piezo injectors have changed the way diesels work. (Oh and Ecoboost is just a gasoline version of a diesel.) I just sold my last gas powered vehicle, I'm 100% diesel now. And not looking back.
Nice truck. What kind do you have there? I'm not knocking anyone's truck. I am impressed with all the new trucks. They all seem to be very reliable, have good or decent power, etc., etc. You said it has been up to 20.1 mpg. I believe you. But my point is what is it most of the time? What does it read when you leave the corner and are getting on the gas kinda hard. You know those days when you are in kinda of a hurry and/or those days when it just seems more fun to get on the gas kinda hard. LOL. It is probably reading down around 13.1 when you initially leave the corner. Combine all the lower readings on your dash with all the higher ones and you might actually be around 15 or 16 mpg average. Or when you are passing someone. If you figure out your gas mileage the "old way", you would probably get a more accurate average. I say it would probably be down around 15-16 gallons per mile average. A guy I work with bought a newer Ford F-150. I think it is a 2014 with that new V6, he said he is impressed with his gas mileage. Especially compared to his old Chevy that he drove until it could barely move anymore. I hope you like your new truck and it does well for you. I bought a used 2012 Chevy 2500HD with 50,000 miles on it. I really like it. The 6.0L gas engine in this thing is NOT getting 20mpg! But I don't have to drive much, so it did not matter to me that much. One of the many benefits of working very close to home.
I'd still like to know how they turned that one around on us? Diesel was always cheaper then gas till the price increases. What excuse I wonder? Besides my saying. Because they can. Refineries in the United States produced an average of about 12 gallons of diesel fuel and 19 gallons of gasoline from one barrel (42 gallons) of crude oil in 2013. What the gov says. Demand for diesel fuel and other distillate fuel oils have been relatively high, especially in Europe, China, India, and the United States. The transition to less polluting, lower-sulfur diesel fuels in the United States affected diesel fuel production and distribution costs. The federal excise tax for on-highway diesel fuel of 24.4 cents/gallon is 6 cents per gallon higher than the gasoline tax.
Agreed. Real trucks have 4 wheels, a steering wheel, an engine and some type of box in the back for cargo (usually wood in my case). Most of the pick-ups on the market today are glorified passenger cars with all the comforts of home. I've always had a very basic truck to haul stuff and something sporty for most of my driving. Now they are combined into one vehicle that can serve both purposes. The manufacturers' marketing plan backfired, now instead of buying two vehicles I only buy a truck. Plus driving the truck everyday I can see more than the bumper of the SUV in front of me. KaptJaq
My first car was an over the hill green VW diesel Rabbit. Diesel was more expensive than gas as usual, but the mileage was great. In the winter, that car sucked due the glow plugs and it needed to be plugged in all the time. In 1988, I bought a VW Fox with a 4 cylinder 4spd. That car was indestructible. I'd average 34mpg even though the window sticker read 27 mpg. I had that car until I went in the Navy in 94. At that time I lent it to my cousin. It was stolen, destroyed and found. When I got it back in 97, it was not the same car. The ride was no where near as good as it was, and it needed work. As a result, I went out and bought a 99 Dodge Dakota. I kept the Dakota from 99 to 04. As gas prices were creeping up, I decided I needed a car for the long distances I drove everyday to work. In my second bad decision, I traded that truck in for a Honda Accord. I should have kept the truck. They only gave me 5k for the trade in. I could not get use to that car. After riding much higher for so long, I couldn't get use to being so low to the ground. I kept that car for about 6 months. This car started a very bad trail of poor decisions that lead us into massive debt. We bought and upgraded cars about every two to three years. All the while the total loan we'd take kept getting higher and higher. This started to end when I purchased my wife a Honda Odyssey. She kept that car for 7 years. Meanwhile I kept up the constant trade ins. The wife traded her Honda Odyssey in for a Toyota Sienna. Which I hated. We kept it for two years and then traded that in for a Ford Explorer. Which we both love. The Explorer will remain with us until the tires fall off. Learned my lesson. Meanwhile I convert over to leasing. Major mistake there. This ended with yet another Honda Accord. It was a good car, but I went over the miles. That was the very end of our string of poor vehicle decisions. We were declined a loan by anyone and everyone to purchase the Accord at the end of the lease. Which meant I owed Honda for the overage on mileage. That was the final piece to end this string. Fortunately my dad stepped in to help me purchase the 06 VW Jetta TDI in 2010. That car along with the Explorer will stay with us until the tires fall off. Let me tell you all that I respect you long term owners of your trucks. You are wise beyond your years. Something that has taken me a long and painful trip to come to that conclusion. My plan has been to go out and purchase a used Ford truck within the next two years. However; yesterday I decided to table that. My dad lives with us in a detached mother-nlaw apartment. He owns the 07 Toyota Tundra. Whenever I need a truck, I have access to his. Now that he's in his late 70's, he's driving less and less. No need for me to spend my money on something I have access to on a regular basis. That truck will stay with our family until it's tires fall off, or my dad decides he no longer wants a truck. Until then, I am very happy with our vehicles.
I've spend sometime in Europe for work, and many Europeans prefer gas vehicles over diesel. The problem is that gas comes at a more expensive cost over there. The only ones I met with gas cars are ones that had company cars. Otherwise as you say, the vast majority drive diesel. One of them explained that the refinement of the Russian oil that is mainly used in Europe is easier to refine to diesel that gas. Where the oil we use in the states is more expensive to convert to diesel. Not sure I buy that, but it was an interesting spin.