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First fire in the Beta Ideal Steel Woodstock stove

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by BrianK, Nov 23, 2013.

  1. BrianK

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    I'm getting two types: 1) secondaries along the roof of the firebox which is slanted stainless steel with holes for secondary air as well as 2) rolling secondary flames from the catalyst in front of the firebox along the door window.
     
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    Brian, that you mentioned the coals can interfere with the Andirons, have you ever went to flip them up and the wood was in the way hitting against the Andiron? Guess you just keep an eye on it as you load..
     
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    I have not had that trouble. But if the coal bed is high then coals can roll down behind the andirons when you flip them forward to load and you have to get them out if the way before you tip the andirons back up and close the door.
     
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    So a simple reload routine would be to just flip the Andirons forward, push the coals back and load your wood.. Sounds like not an issue for the final production stove..
     
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    How necessary are the andirons? It almost seems to be more aesthetic then needed with a square-ish firebox.

    Also, I can't remember if you've mentioned it before, but what are the dimensions of the stove at the height you currently have it at (WxHxD)? If I do a new stove, I'm thinking of doing the kitchen stove first and redoing the fireplace to allow for a larger stove.
     
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    The only potential issue with that is that it would seem to create a larger bed of coals since pushing the coals forward usually helps to burn them down.
     
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    Brian could you also measure the firebox? Thanks.
     
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    The andirons aren't really necessary. I think they're more for psychological assistance and aesthetic appearance. Tom said this stove can be burned completely safely without them installed.

    Stove top is 28" wide, 23 1/2" deep and on the highest leg setting stove is 35 1/2" tall. On this Beta unit there is about 4" of adjustment on the legs so minimum height would be ~31" on this particular unit.
     
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    Firebox measures 22" wide, 18" deep, 11" tall at rear of secondary air plate, 15" tall at front of secondary air plate.
     
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    Is the 18" to the andirons or the door?
     
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    Thats right at 3 cuft. I thought it was a little bigger?
     
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    It is 3.2

    Which seems right since you do not know the angle degree that it goes from 15" to 11"
     
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    I'm thinking to push the coals back an inch or so, just that they're clear of the Andirons.. Not saying all the way to the back...
     
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    To the andirons, which are a half inch thick.
     
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    Great work Brian. WOW, you really have that thig STUFFED! Did you have any problems with the wood trying to fall back out when loading it stuffed liek that? Particularly the top mistery round angled in. It looks like you had to shut the door against it to keep it in, or is that just a wierd picture distortion..... ?

    Anyone remember the firebox dimmensions on the PH?
     
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    Im curious also? I would load North to South and all my wood is at 18".
     
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    To the andirons, which are a half inch thick.
     
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    North to South is working GREAT with this stove. And with the angle of the roof of the firebox occasionally we can fit one East to West on top at the front.
     
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    The top mystery round was well behind the andirons. That angle was the only way I could fit it in due to the downward slope towards the rear of the roof of the firebox.

    No trouble so far with logs falling out.
     
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    Brian, I have a request. I don't know your work schedule, so I don't know when this will be possible to measure, but, could I get a time from peak heat of a reload (what ever you dial it to) to the time the stove drops back down to 300 again.
     
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