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Facebook Yardsale - Wonder why its hard to burn?

Discussion in 'The Wood Market' started by tuneighty, Dec 26, 2014.

  1. tuneighty

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    Saw this transpiring .... [​IMG]

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    Firewood- Mixed hardwoods split, Red Oak, White Oak, Locust, and Cherry… $70 per truck load Delivered… We have plenty and deliver daily… FB message, call or text…. 717-729-3540

     
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  2. Grizzly Adam

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    Lol, sounds like some unhappy customers.
     
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  3. papadave

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    Uh,......what?
     
  4. My IS heats my home

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    I don't blame them for asking questions, there are alot of shady dealers and backyard cutters out there trying to pull the wool over
     
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    Its 2-3 month seasoned wood.. oaks, locust and cherry. no wonder its hard to start and keep going... especially when piled without tarp for the last 2-3 months of rain that we've had heaped up on the ground... hmmm


    they asked the right questions, but were not aware of the right answers. 2-3 month cut and split oak will never burn good cherry maybe on an existing fire, but that is pushing it.
     
  6. Freakingstang

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    70 bucks for half a face cord. lol:wacky:

    wet and green too, just for those long burns. :rofl: :lol:
     
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    Some of these dealers are like a bunch of snakes. Shady business
     
  8. rookie1

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    I think the worst is that woman asking questions. She doesn't seem to know very much about burning. Too bad she's not on FHC getting tips from us.
     
  9. chris

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    News for ya level load tossed in a short box would maybe be a 1/3 of a cord. Likely a bit short even 4'x6'x2' =48 cf less the wheel well humps--42.6 = 1/3 cord Most pu boxes are not 2ft deep.
     
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    Do you think 1/3 cord on a loose load with a short box leveled out?
     
  11. Grizzly Adam

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    I get about 1/3 cord with our 6' box heaped up high. Then again, thats thats usually presplit.
     
  12. Freakingstang

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    maybe the OP should invite her here...
     
  13. bigbarf48

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    That's how most sellers do business. Heaped in a pile, shortbed load for mucho $$$, split last month.

    Not sure they're trying to pull one over on people though, they're usually as clueless as their customers
     
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    Most sellers have that old school mentality, cut up the rounds in the spring, split it before you burn it, normally before snow flies... I know that's how we did it for years and dad must have finally gotten wise and started buying log lengths and we'd cut it up in the spring and stack it in the back yard for the following year.

    I spent the better part of the last two months trying to buy a cord of two from local sellers that was actually seasoned, my 2 year CSS oak was stored in a place not ideal for airflow and sun and is still 22-24%. not good for my little lopi that likes it closer to 15% than 20%. So after calling a ton, emailing even more.. NOT ONE SELLER could tell me what the moisture content of their wood was for and the majority of the wood was the same scenario as this FB post... cut and split in june-july. I tried explaining to the sellers that these newer epa stoves couldn't be burnt like the old 1980's stoves. Most told me to F off. Not one wanted to hear what I had to say or would spend 20 bucks to buy a moisture meter for one "potential " customer.

    I ended up buying a load of kiln dried lumber cut offs... yup it was kiln dried all right. As soon as the chunks hit the concrete driveway I knew it was green as the money I would be giving him. He sent me a text later on that day asking if I wanted another load. I said, no, not unless you have real kiln dried wood like you told me. This stuff was cut within the last 2 weeks, most had MC in the mid 30's and wasn't burnable until next year. I never heard back from him... It was about 2 cord of 4x4x10 4x6x12, 4x4x6, 6x6x8 chunks with some smaller and some bigger that is all hardwoods for 150 delivered and will be great chunk wood for my little lopi, but not this year. No bark, and not slabwood. These are cutoffs after boards are milled to length/width. I tried doing legwork, and would have gotten to some of the amish mills myself if I could while they were open. they normally charge cheap prices all year round to get it out of their way. not many amish mills kiln dry, but I bought from this kid because he claimed kiln dried which I knew I could burn this year.... that was a straight up lie. SO i bought wood, that I really couldn't afford that I cant burn until next season...I already have a bunch of green wood for next year. lol.
     
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    I've been looking at it this way for a few years now........which can I afford more easily?
    Firewood, or a gas bill.
    I'll take door number one please.:thumbs:
    I quit relying on my firewood guy to sell me dry wood, because it was/is always recently split.
    I can rely on myself...I know that for a fact.
    Everybody else, not so much.
    Does that guy even know what a kiln is?:eek:
     
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    My wood isn't all that great, but the soft maple was split in April and the ash in waves after that point. I still believe that there are woods that you can get away with less than ideal seasoning for. By that I mean 6 months +

    That would be the ash and soft / silver maple variety. Pine throws no heat until seasoned and I wouldn't even try it with oak. A complete waste of premium fuel. Also, 3 inch and under branches cut real short will be good to go in a short amount of time. I think as hoarders we try to get enough on hand that we don't have to worry so much whether it will be seasoned since you won't get to it for a couple years anyway.

    I don't think the average burner has a clue and even many people who have burnt for years. Lighting a good seasoned load and feeling the heat immediately is an eye opener for sure.
     
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    wow that sure don't look like $70 worth of wood to me.....35-40 tops,if it was 12-18 months old.
     
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    Most people seem to think their short bed truck is 1/2 cord, and a fullsize bed is a cord :rolleyes:
     
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    A cord would destroy my truck. The tires would explode with 4,000 pounds in the bed.
     
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    Yep. I've had 3/4 cord of dry stuff in my 3/4 ton truck with the side boards. But your average wood seller with a 1/2 ton isn't gonna fit a cord in there, or anything close