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Moving heavy things

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by Jon1270, Nov 21, 2014.

  1. Jon1270

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    Just to make sure I've got this, a snatch block is just a single pulley with a hook or eye on it, right? Enough to double one's pulling power without resorting to a full block and tackle setup?
     
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    2 x 4 ski's on the box and winch or come along up the stairs
     
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    Yeah, and that'd work great too. You'd have to attach the snatch block to the tool chest, with one end of the rope anchored up the hill, and you also up the hill pulling the other end of the rope. Wrap your end of the rope around the attachment post if you need a break.
     
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    It won't double up without another wheel somewhere in the setup. Just redirect the pull, allow you to possibly use a vehicle to pull if the block is up at the house end.
     
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    You sure about that, Willis? Doing it as bassJAM describes, it seems the load would move half the distance that the rope was pulled.
     
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    It occurs to me that I could probably turn a hardwood pulley in short order, and make a serviceable snatch block out of scraps around the shop. It's not as if it needs to last forever.
     
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    Well, that is affordable. Might even work with a rope I already have.

    According to a formula on Engineering Toolbox, the pulling force needed in the steepest sections would be about half the weight of the box. A snatch block to halve that again, plus drawer removal, seems very likely to be sufficient.
     
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    As some said. Take all the drawers out. Most have clips that you pop out. That will get rid of about 1/2 the weight and you can walk the drawers in by yourself. If it is a single drawer cabinet just get a good 2 wheel cart. One trick is to put a piece of OSB or cardboard over the front so the slides from the drawers don't come out giving you fits. If the cart doesn't have a strap, put a couple on it and attach to the cart. I've moved them by myself up and down stairs but it's much easier with 2 people. Plywood down on the ground, box strapped to the cart, cable puller or block and tackle and pull it up by yourself. We're not talking about moving that much weight here.

    If you're getting a chest that is over 4 ft long then you're gonna need more equipment or people but same ideas will work..
     
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    Looks like that home faces another street. Can you come down one side of the house? Can you lower it off the deck? Can you hire some a delivery sevice to take down an inside stairwell?
     
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    Coming down around the outside of the house would involve a steep, narrow staircase. Up the hill looks easier.
     
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    I'm sure. Without a diagram we may be talking two setups. To double the pull you need another anchor point or another pulley.
     
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    Ah, there's the confusion. bassJAM did mention the need for an anchor point up the hill.
     
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    Maybe find a small moving company in the area. Have them come over and see what you have and show them what your buying. They have the equipment already, and more importantly, they usually have the muscle. They may just move it in with several guys doing the heavy lifting. I wouldn't think they would charge you that much for a job that would only take an hour at the most. Four guys for any hour, prolly worth the money.
     
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    Pulley logic, generally speaking:

    A fixed pulley is worth one point.
    A pulley that moves with the load is worth two points.

    Add up all the points and set it as a ratio to one. That is your mechanical advantage.

    If you have one system acting on another system, you add each systems advantage individually them multiply the two to get your total mechanical advantage.
     
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    Au contraire , I believe it does ....
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    It's fun engineering a way to get this done. On an economic tangent, I've been learning that the market for secondhand professional toolboxes is kinda crazy. I couldn't understand why there would be so many boxes on CL priced in the stratosphere and not ever seeming to sell, until I found explanations that the tool trucks will often give very high trade-in prices when a mechanic wants to upgrade, and also finance the new box. It seems that the toolbox manufacturers prop up their own prices by outbidding potential private buyers. Very interesting.
     
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    The pulley idea seems the best, two pulleys being more betterer. The bud nippers at work have a come along that uses a 1/2" rope in essence making a endless come along. That would probably work well too. Pittsburgh is a little far for me or I would give you a hand.
     
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    Thanks. I think I can probably handle this. I don't even have the box yet, but I didn't want to buy one and then have no idea how to proceed. I think I've got a decent handle on it now.
     
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    :popcorn:You know you have to post pics of the entire proceedings. Right?
     
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