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Square filing chains

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by mdavlee, Aug 17, 2014.

  1. mdavlee

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    I've been way down into the straps when filing and grinding. Sometimes it's the strap behind the tooth I'm filing.
     
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    this chain was one that was happy cutting ,and was hand filed ,it self fed nice ,and i got 2 days out of it before some dirt got it ,you can see where i nicked the straps filing ,not all my chains come out as super happy eaters ,but this one did ,here is a few different image angles ,honestly i rarely file a chain ,they get done on the silvey because i wait till i get a bunch dull then sharpen them ,i bring a few chains with me when cutting in case i hit something ,so no need to sharpen in the field while working ,right now i have 10 or so 105 dl chains hanging next to the grinder that need done ,takes 6-8 minutes per chain with the grinder if i check the angles every so often ,make sure my corner is getting lined up ,,if i do 2 a night it is not too bad ,sitting there over an hour sharpening gets boring though hand filed square 1-14-14 016.JPG hand filed square 1-14-14 015.JPG hand filed square 1-14-14 014 small.jpg hand filed square 1-14-14 012.JPG
     
  3. Moparmyway

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    That first picture looks to have a slight side beak....... no?
     
  4. Hedgerow

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    Top beak..
    But the camera and shadows tend to play tricks on us..
     
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    Last pic - i may need glasses, but that camera is certainly playin with my old eyes, looks like a side beak ??

    Blew it up to enlarge it, on my phone its not a big screen
     
  6. mdavlee

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    Top beak on the left cutter and a small side beak on the right one.
     
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  7. trx250r180

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    It does ,but that chain lasted a long time for square,does the side beak help with that ?
     
  8. Freakingstang

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    Looks like a lot of the gullet is still there
     
  9. mdavlee

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    Not really. It usually dulls quicker with side beak.
     
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    Side beak "feels" real sharp.. It's kinda misleading... It cuts ok, but don't last to long, as it can start a "peel" of the chrome layer.. The top beak, however , don't cut as fast, but ain't got anything to hook and start peeling it's chrome either.. Sooooo...
    Meh... It's early...
    I need another cup o coffee..
     
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    I thought I read last night ( yes I read all 24 pages) that no one could make the gran berg jig work on square filed? that's probably because you need an actual chisel bit jig...not the round jig... I used this for years to convert round to square, or to fix rocked out chains. Now I do it by hand. Not the greatest pics, but you should get the idea

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  12. trx250r180

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    I normally wait till about 3 sharpening to grind the gullets out on a work chain,the one in the pics self Fed real nice,not sure if rakers height is why or cutter shapes
     
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    I was cutting soft woods,a lot of wet alder also,that stuff cuts super easy,the main log on the alders was 20-24 inches
     
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    Here is how I am holding the file. I try to keep the corner in of the file in the corner of the tooth, I slipped a little when I took the picture.

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  15. mdavlee

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    I use my other hand to hold the tooth when it's on the bar. Tighten the chain so it won't rock much and it's easier to file.
     
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    I try to hold the tooth and let the file ride against my finger to help steady the file about like you did that video. I just needed a 3rd hand to do all of that and take a picture.
     
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    WOW ............. this PS3 cleans up real nicely
     

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    I filed some of that stuff but never run it myself.
     
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    I am going to run it on my pole saw.
    I adapted a 16" bar onto it and have some limbs to cut. Maybe today, if not tomorrow !! I still have to look at the rakers, and make that gullet work.
     
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    Once square filed, the PS cutters REALLY BITE!!!
    beware, you may have to port your pole saw...
     
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