Its so fun burning REAL seaeoned dry wood and I owe a big thanks to FHC for stopping me from burning 1 year old oak. Where I live you hardly ever hear the word wood or saw until late Oct early Nov and people selling is ripping people guts out example I seen a nice flat bed load of what looked to be as good of seasoned wood I have seen for sell round here. So I knew several people I sold to last year that was begging for wood so I called and left a message lol 2 weeks later I got and the man ask if I was looking for fire wood I said no but I knew a lot that did and I would pass his number around until Im going to make the rest of this short I ask him how long the wood had been down and thought for a minute and said probably 2 months The man advertised a good looking load and it set there for to long well he took around 50 orders from that load and is selling GREEN wood This should not be legal
I agree. I think a lot of people sell green wood. I feel bad for the people that buy and throw it in to start a fire and bubbles are coming out of the wood.
Temps out side this morning and my stove in the basement at idle at best Good wood Good times This indoor temp is up stairs.
Griz, no matter how hard we try, I don't think we'll ever change that mindset. The one about getting the season's firewood a couple months in advance of the season. But, as more and more people buy the newer epa stoves, well, they'll find out! I still have my pre-epa stove-just can't let it go so it sits there...tsking up space in the storage shed...taunting me...asking "remember how easy I was to get along with? I'd burn anything for you and give off tons of heat?"
I don't think there's anything wrong with selling green firewood, as long as it isn't touted as "seasoned". I've bought green Oak, but I learned very quickly it doesn't burn well, so I stacked it to dry. When it didn't burn well after a year of that, I let it sit longer and found a place that had members that knew better. The trick is educating people (sellers and buyers alike) about firewood. A lot of the info you see coming from university studies also says to use at least 1 year "seasoned" wood, but that isn't convenient for most people. You can't use firewood like you can a thermostat.
GRIZ it's good you've learned the right way......we've all been done the "wet wood road" and it sucks...... That's our main goal here, teach people to go out and "hoard" some extra wood, and give it plenty of time to season so it's optimal. Not only does it produce better heat but it is much safer to burn, with no creosote and much less smoke...... It's a win for the wood burner, for the economy, for the environment.....everyone wins when you burn well seasoned wood.....
I was talking to a neighbor that drives truck for a living and said he just got a load in he prepayed for it.He got home on the weekend and found out it was green looked fresh and was expecting seasoned.They won't be getting his business anymore.
A big problem I've noticed is that a lot of us (I'm unincluded) don't have enough space to store enough wood to dry it properly. Unless you can get your hands on some truly dry wood every year before burning, that is what ticks people off. Not too many wood sellers are willing or able to have that much wood just sitting around, so it becomes the buyers problem.
Another component of the buy-it -now- and-burn-it-now thinking that these posts show is (infounded) fear that dry wood will burn too fast and hot, melting the stove and starting chimney fires. The chicken before the egg...
There's a huge log lot along the main drag here that has at least 50 piles of 16' full logs. Down at one end, there's a separate op processing firewood from his couple of piles of logs in the back. Not 95% of the entire yard's logs. Most is going to sawmills. The firewood guy is young, according to the yard owner, and doesn't work too hard. Have heard his wood is processed usually the same day as it's delivered, from those 2 piles of 1 yr, off the stump, logs. Results, green wet wood. He advertises seasoned, like everyone else. That makes 3 ops here I've learned about. All do the same thing... tell customers the wood was cut at least a year ago and is now seasoned... it's not even close. Those logs don't dry at all until they're CSS, as most here at FHC are aware. I learned the hard way when I fell for it a couple years ago when we moved here. That maple and oak, that I'm hoping to burn this season, still may not even be close. Was told I'd be able to burn it no problem. And, that wood came off the stump in the fall of 2012... but, was processed the morning it was delivered in Aug last year... 3 cords split. I had the shed done about a month later and got it in there... but, dunno, not lookin good. Only good thing about it would be it could push me out into a 4 year plan then... hmmmm. Ought to pick up a MM.
Chimley, or chimbley are appropriate spellings. That's a gooder point Gark, and one I've noticed around here too. I'm still working on getting my brother to "season" firewood. Not much luck so far.
MM is the stove. If it sizzles a lot, it's for overnight, if it sizzles less, it's just right for day fires. No sizzle, it's too dry.......take it back.
Yea but his show load is not what he is selling and when I told him I cut and sold wood last year and ask how long it had been down he paused a min and told the truth 2 months. The people buying wood now is buying it for now. Yea you would think all would learn.
How to say this nicely.......some rely way too much on others for info, instead of educating themselves. I'll stop there. It's also hard to know what you don't know. As an example, I could never be a rocket surgeon.
