In loving memory of Kenis D. Keathley 6/4/81 - 3/27/22 Loving father, husband, brother, friend and firewood hoarder Rest in peace, Dexterday

Waxoyl undercoating

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by theburtman, Sep 22, 2025.

  1. The Wood Wolverine

    The Wood Wolverine

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2015
    Messages:
    18,478
    Likes Received:
    118,540
    Location:
    Gettysburg, PA
    Agree 100%.
     
    theburtman likes this.
  2. brenndatomu

    brenndatomu

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    24,362
    Likes Received:
    157,674
    Location:
    NE Ohio
    I usually wait until November to get oil spray done...
     
    eatonpcat and theburtman like this.
  3. theburtman

    theburtman

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2019
    Messages:
    3,684
    Likes Received:
    28,524
    Location:
    Vermont
    After 1 winter with my truck being NHOU treated, my fenders, rear bumper, tailgate.and running boards are all coated with the stuff around the edges. Is this normal and how do you get it off?
     
  4. RCBS

    RCBS

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2016
    Messages:
    5,928
    Likes Received:
    29,341
    Location:
    Over here
    Mechanics here don't get the credit they deserve for dealing with rust. I been half arsed shopping for a 1 ton dumper for a year or so. A stipulation is that a plow has never been mounted. They are few and far between (especially in my price range). I can deal with owning a beater dump, but I cannot deal with trying to keep it going when every repair turns into a makeshift machining operation.
     
    brenndatomu, Woodtroll and Chud like this.
  5. Barcroftb

    Barcroftb

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2015
    Messages:
    3,126
    Likes Received:
    18,254
    Location:
    The Mitten
    I like fluid film here in Michigan. Here’s an old Michigan farmer tip that I didn’t see mentioned though. Before you spray anything that has surface rust present with any type of rust prevention. Whether that be fluid film, paint, etc. treat with Ospho. Phosphoric acid converts iron oxide into inert iron phosphate. My grandpa, who could stretch a buck until you could see through it, first learned to use it in the navy in WW II. Most of his equipment had patches on top of patches before it was so used up it couldn’t be repaired anymore. Ospho kept it all from turning to rust. I believe the process is very similar to parkerizing.
     
  6. brenndatomu

    brenndatomu

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    24,362
    Likes Received:
    157,674
    Location:
    NE Ohio
    I tried that before...I was disappointed with the results, but maybe I fouled something up with the process?
     
    eatonpcat likes this.
  7. Barcroftb

    Barcroftb

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2015
    Messages:
    3,126
    Likes Received:
    18,254
    Location:
    The Mitten
    What product did you use?
     
    eatonpcat and brenndatomu like this.
  8. brenndatomu

    brenndatomu

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    24,362
    Likes Received:
    157,674
    Location:
    NE Ohio
    I'd need to dig the bottle out again...pretty sure it was phosphoric acid though...
     
    eatonpcat likes this.
  9. Barcroftb

    Barcroftb

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2015
    Messages:
    3,126
    Likes Received:
    18,254
    Location:
    The Mitten
    The bottle of ospho I have here is probably 20 years old and says it’s 50% phosphoric acid. My understanding is that concentrations greater than that aren’t more helpful per se. It’s possible what you used was a lower concentration. Idk… I do know you dang sure don’t want the stuff I have to get on your skin! Gives you a pretty good tickle. You have to knock off any loose rust, make sure the surface is as dry and clean as possible, and reapply if there’s visible rust left behind. You want to take the surface down to light surface rust that is well adhered. I believe I used acetone to prep surfaces in the past. The acid should be able to do the rest. I’ve used it on some vehicle frames, and restored a crusty Kubota plow to like new. I thought I had before pictures of the plow but I guess not. 15 years ago is a long time. I’ve seen it fill in minor pitting and make rough surfaces smooth after the sand size surface rust has been cleaned off. If you’ve got big flakes of rust though that rot’s usually too far gone. The stuff isn’t miracle juice. I view it as another tool in the prevention tool box. And thus my knowledge of the subject is exhausted.

    IMG_20131116_154259_199_Original.jpeg IMG_20131116_154150_349_Original.jpeg
     
  10. cezar

    cezar

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2021
    Messages:
    430
    Likes Received:
    1,776
    Location:
    KY
    Every spring I get under my 4runner and hit the frame rust with rust convertor, and then I have started following up with blasting everything indiscriminately with WD40. I'm sure this is a inferior process to the proper products, but it only costs me $20 a year.

    This was one of the models that should have gotten the toyota frame recall but never did. Looks almost brand new, other than a couple key problem areas like the radiator cross-brace. Car has 240k on it. I joke that I'm stuck with it because it's in absolutely phenominal mechanical condition.
     
    eatonpcat, Barcroftb and brenndatomu like this.