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Pacific Energy insert ID

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by g60gti, Nov 8, 2024.

  1. g60gti

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    Any pacific energy gurus on here know what model this insert is? I’ve been searching for inserts that will allow me to not have to modify my mantel or use a mantle shield and pacific energy seems to have the smallest clearances that I can find. Thinking it’s because most that I’ve seen seem to have almost like a deflection shield built right into the insert already. The current lineup of inserts all only require 13-15” of clearance from top of insert if I’m reading that correctly.

    Any other suggestions of inserts with short clearances to the mantle?
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    The seller replied back to me and said she believes it’s the summit model. I can’t find a picture or any info on a summit ever coming with that door. Eh, it’s a 6 hour drive anyways so probably won’t go, but the summits retail for around 5k and she only wants 500 so probably worth it. Look son nice shape.
     
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    I believe the clearances you are talking about are clearances to*combustibles*, meaning that if you have a masonry structure (with no studs within the clearance distance of the stove) you'll be fine.

    Or do you have a wooden mantle within a foot or so?

    There are wood lookalike mantles that are non-combustible.
     
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    I have a wood mantle that is original to the house from 1853 so it is not going anywhere or being replaced. Could possibly raise it up slightly but it already lands on the last course of brick so there’s not much room.

    Page from the manual, 15 inches. That is a pretty small distance compared to a lot I’ve been looking at but unless I can find a used one closer to home there’s no way I’m forking out 5k.
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    I wanna see the mantle!
     
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    me too.

    @g60gti I understand.

    Bummer. I unfortunately don't have the knowledge to suggest models that would work here.
     
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    I've heard of people making copper heat shield/ deflectors on mantles that are too close...could be done in a way that looks great!
    As for that used one...is that six hours round trip? If so that's not bad...just make a day out of it, find something fun to do/see...heck I've went further to save less than that before...but I talked with the seller on the phone, was sure that it was what he claimed (plus lots of pics) and had already nailed down exactly how it was going to go (he knew I was coming from out of state) so there was no surprises, then planned to make a weekend out of it...stopped and met some people, had fun, don't regret it at all.
     
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    I had similar clearance issues and went with an osburn matrix 1900. They have a couple options.
     
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    Forgot to add, that is a fine tabby.
     
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    It’s nothing too grand or anything but seeing as the rest of the house is a pretty standard farmhouse someone put some time and pride into it. One of my father’s friends who’s into woodworking thinks it actually may have come along a little later than 1853, either way we’d like to keep it.
     
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    I’ll take a look at their website. Being drafty and large I’m trying to
    Fit the largest possible insert in that I can.

    Another idea I’m kicking around is a gas stove. When I want to pick up the f500 I took a look at the Jotul gas offerings and they were really nice and would fit into the fireplace. It’s kind of cheating and not as nice as sitting in front of a wood fire but I do have 2400 Ccf of gas provided annually.
     
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    Sweet mantle!
     
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    Yes it is, I’d be going the extra mile to preserve it as well. Don’t see many woodworkers doing stuff like that anymore.
     
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    I can see wanting to save that...a copper heat shield/deflector could work there...and someone with the knowhow (coppersmith?) could make it look great too!
     
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    I won't recommend ignoring the clearance instructions of a stove manufacturer, however.....

    the current setup is an open fireplace with wood mantle and trim all around. The fire inspector in my town would go apesquat and say that the wood mantle and trim needs to be removed because they are combustible and it's an open firebox (he is a bouchedag). If an insert is installed in the current fireplace, is not the firebox contained? Codes absolutely baffle me. In my town it's legal to install a 7000 CFM whole house fan but a 1000 CFM kitchen exhaust fan requires an interlocked outside air intake. Their logic is that a 1000 CFM itchen exhaust fan could cause a negative pressure situation and combustion appliances would backdraft. Uh, OK. When I first bought this house it had a huge whole house fan. In the middle of winter I had a Fisher Grandma Bear going and managed to burn the cr@p out of a recipe on the stove. I turned on the whole house fan and within 30 seconds, the Fisher had backdrafted down the chimney and the house was a smoke disaster. The fire inspector had no answer for my permit application for a 1000 CFM kitchen exhaust fan that was not interlocked. By the way,

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    Yes, that is ridiculous to even put that in there but you know, dumb people and lawyers…
     
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