New Install of Blaze King King 40 KE Stove on Six Inch Flue and Chimney

Sure...a 15' chimney will have less draft than one thats 30' tall.

 

Yes, restricting the door opening works in reducing smoke roll out.

I suppose depending when the person tends (at what temperature) the stove … I’m thinking if they catch it right the chimney may be warmer than an 8” chimney would be at that same point in time…and I’m thinking that may help keep the smoke from rolling out as much, if at all, and help keep the low numbers higher. Perhaps it won’t and a door restriction might still help. Were you or someone else suggesting a door restriction of some sort? I don’t recall seeing it mentioned until your last comment. Perhaps I missed it.

I understand that half capacity thing, I’m thinking a smaller pipe will stay warmer longer making it a moot point. I’m sort of gambling/guessing on that and not at all meaning to sound argumentative that my thoughts are correct.

 

I agree completely. I believe several factors are at play here.

 

A Blaze King Rep could settle all this back and forth.

 

Ahhhh, ok. And, sounds like you'll have an elbow to exit a wall int the chimney where as, my install is a straight shot up. That would possibly cause some concern.

 

Earlier in the thread, there was a discussion between users regarding smoke rollout. While this has not been a huge issue for me, there was a time I had a wisp of smoke come out. A wood stove I had years ago had a "curtain" hanging over the door opening which worked amazing to help retain smoke, yet would swivel as it hung on two little hooks to make loading easy. I used this concept to fashion this "curtain" to use on my BK simply using aluminum tin foil folded several times to make it very sturdy. I have since fashioned one out of heat duct sheet metal per a suggestion by another member (I apologize for not remembering who suggested it). Even BK40 users with an 8" install reported smoke rollout at times. I pretty much use this curtain on every reload, even if I probably don't need to, just to prevent any potential smoke smell in the house. For me, it has worked perfectly.

On this particular morning that I took these pictures, the air was extremely heavy (see the fog).

The little round thing you see in the picture is a magnet which ensures the foil doesn't fall off if bumped while loading.

It's quite simple. Slide it in while opening the door slowly, load your wood, then slide it out while slowly closing the door.

For this picture, I put a couple pieces of wood on the coals to generate an excessive amount of smoke for demonstration to its effectiveness. I think other stove users, not just BK users could find this very helpful. It's quick, easy, and a cheap solution to eliminate ALL smoke rollout. You can see the smoke rolling behind the tin foil, yet none came out.

I went back and looked, original discussion was December 9, 2023 on this thread.

 

Ok…I must have totally missed that part of the discussion or forgotten, or something.

Years ago lots of stoves had those swinging curtains. I have one in the garage that has it and Lopi Liberty’s air wash sort of serves as “curtain block” as well.

Wait…maybe I do remember part of that conversation. Seems I do recall mentioning that Keystoker Coal Stoves (hand fed) are delivered new with a plate that covers the entire door opening when the door is open. Maybe I did mention it, maybe I didn’t, but there you go. LOL!

 

If that's all you forget, you're doing good!!

 

Well according to the wife…

 

Alright this thread is sparking my interest in BK's again. I run a Pacific Energy T5 and love it however if I did go the route of a cat stove I feel like it would be way harder to really choose one but BK would be at the top of the list. I'd never replace my t5 at this house but sometimes we wonder how long we plan to stay here, so a new stove could be in the cards someday at a new house.

I hate hearing you got mislead by a sales guy with the first stove just regarding the actual heating needs. Sometimes I feel like stove dealers really don't know the products they sell as well as people who come to these message boards and have real world experience. My stove dealer is so against these message boards and claims it's all false info yet I've caught them numerous times trying to give me bad info.

 

Amen...I think many of the stove dealers are in the same league as a shady used car dealer.
I think the only way I'd put any stock in what a salesman said about a particular stove is if he actually owns that model, and heats his home completely, or at least mostly, with it. And even then, you still don't know what spiffs the company, or dealer, has on a certain model for the sales people though either...

 

I'm kinda thinking you can say this about most all sales people. Obviously there are honest ones out there but they don't last long or can't make a living doing it. Usually they think they're superior to the customer. Kinda like the stove dealer woody5506 is talking about.

 

Amen, Brenndatomu!

 

If whatever a salesperson is selling their livelihood would last much longer if their product was a quality product.

 

Not to divert this thread too far so i will say short of BK in the stove industry, where are the quality products you speak of? Even good named products are junk lately. Just look at Honda to name one.

 

We should start a thread "How to identify a shady stove dealer ".

 

He opens his mouth?

The salesman’s job is to sell his product even if his product is inferior. It’s just a job.

Assume he’s a sleaze by default. It’s like buying seasoned firewood. Sure, it’s possible but it’s also in your best interest to be smart enough about the product to verify anything the salesman says.

Forum members here are special. We actually enjoy this stuff and research the stoves for fun. I’ve read stove manuals for stoves that I’ll never buy, test reports for stoves that would never fit my lifestyle. Oh and I use my stoves, 15 cords of wood stacked in my yard. Can a stove salesman say any of that!

 

I like to play with the stove salesman.I go in and tell him I need a stove that will give me at least 8hrs of usable heat so I don't have to get up at night to refuel it.Then the games begin.When he mentions a stove that will do what I want I ask him if it doesn't do what I need can I return it ? Then things get fidgety. It's a lot of fun.

 

Some are brilliant at their craft. Like an accomplished con man. They might be aware of you messing with them and cut you loose if another mark walks in. Or try and have fun with you if they’re bored.

 

You are correct. I believe the whole problem with my situation is, the salesman really had no idea what he was selling. He was simply selling stoves based on what he read on the sticker attached to the stove.

When I returned to the store several months later to discuss my situation and what I was experiencing, my salesman was no longer working there, and there was a new salesman who didn't even know how to direct a lady who was asking about cleaning the glass on the stove she has bought from them. While I was asking him questions, he admitted that he had never owned or burned a wood stove.

The experience I had with the BK dealer's salesman was nothing less than exceptional. He was extremely knowledgeable, and 100% spot on with everything he told me. Even in regards to the 6" stove pipe.