New Install of Blaze King King 40 KE Stove on Six Inch Flue and Chimney

When I went back and addressed the situation, they told me they would give me 75% credit towards another stove in their store. I debated taking them up on this and going with the Mansfield stove, but, in the end, I decided on the Blaze King King just because I felt it would do a better job. I got a lot of mixed information on whether the man's field would give me the burn temps and length of times that I was looking for.

 

Any chance your Hearthstone shop will help move/sell your relatively unused stove? One would hope.

 

I have heard you can fit well over 100# of compressed wood products into a king. Those manufactured woods are quite dense and dry. Then if you leave it on low I'd bed you could get three days out of it.

 

The BK is the only stove I’d ever consider trying that in and even then I’m not sure I’d try it.

I’d say it would burn forever though.

 

I will keep you updated

You will definitely be updated when we get to that point.

 

I would expect this to be self limiting. As you approach the capacity of the 6" stack the draft will fall and so less fresh air will be sucked in to feed the fire. The full output potential of the king could be reduced as a result if that matters.

 

I am curious about the point you make. The other day, when it was about 28°, I had about four or five pieces of wood in the stove, and I turned it up on high. It got so hot, I actually got a bit concerned and turn down the thermostat. That stove was really cooking!

 

It was designed to run with an 8” pipe/chimney. Statistics are provided for an 8” pipe/chimney, which WILL give optimum performance.

You will soon find out if you need that 8 inches for optimum performance. If you don’t need optimum performance then win, win. Your stove should last even longer as a result.

It won’t be long before the chimney police pops in to tell you you’re in violation of NFPA 211…to which you should reply…”only by an inch”.

Get this…federal code says you can vary by 1”, that is, unless the manufacturer says otherwise. Who supposed to be the main governing body anyway? Isn’t it just like the government to give themselves an out.

 

Hey, "only an inch too small", is still an inch too small

 

The dealer who sold me the Blaze King has offered.

 

In the past, I contacted NIEL's (North Idaho Energy Logs) about supply and dealership options in Colorado.
They supplied me with 3 logs (8lbs. each) to try in my BKK. Those 3 went over 12 hrs. with good heat, I absolutely loved them. Storage concerns and logistics became an issue so I did not pursue them any further. There are still no dealers in Colorado, and the ones in Wyoming don't have them in stock.
They are very good if you can get them, but don't hold your breath.....
..and never consider loading a stove full of them, they burn very hot, it would be a failure-prone situation to try that. It would be bad.

 

I stored mine in plastic tubs from Home Depot stacked on each other.Worked well.Your right they burn hotter than any wood I've used.The manufacturer says not to use too many.I find them to be the best of the compressed products out there by far.

 

Maybe a regular stove but the BK has a thermostat that easily controls the burn rate of the NEILS. I think I put in 7 or 8 at a time when I was testing them. No problem with overheating at all.

 

That is amazing! What's the cost of buying wood like that? Is it cost effective compared to cord wood?

 

It's really something how controllable the burn is on the BK. I love it.

 

I accidentally posted the following on my other thread, but it was intended for this thread as it relates to my BK 40 on a six inch flue/chimney. I apologize in advance to those who are following both threads and are reading it twice.

Well, we've reached a day where we can actually discuss some smoke and the stove with a 6" chimney. I woke this morning to a very heavy fog, only about 1/8 mile visibility, and 29 degrees. My house was again, pleasantly warm, almost too warm at 79 degrees, but hey, better than the alternative! You can see in the picture off the patio the air was very heavy with no breeze.

So, now lets talk smoke. While I haven't had issues with smoke issues so far, today would be different. When I opened the stove, the coals were glowing hot. I loaded in a few small pieces of wood on the coals and they began to instantly start generating ALOT of smoke. A small wiff of smoke exited the top of the door.

I want to get off on a rabbit trail for just a moment. While using the Hearthstone Heritage, I had experienced multiple occasions where smoke would come out the door if I loaded from the front door instead of the side door. Anticipating this could still potentially happen with the Blaze King, even more so because of the 6" flue, I had previously made up my little tin foil baffle as pictured below. What you are looking at is a piece of tin foil folded about 4 times to make it quite stiff. I bent a small 3/4 inch piece on top. What I did this morning was slide the tin foil in between the door and the stove as I opened the door. This created a much smaller door opening and forced the stove to suck air through the smaller opening, hence, no more smoke exiting the stove. I held the foil in place using the little magnet you also see in the picture. You can see in the picture, the smoke is rolling heavily behind the tin foil. That being said, no smoke entered the room. When finished loading, I simply removed the magnet and slid the foil out as I closed the stove's door. I told my wife I was going to replace the chimney this weekend with the 8 inch but then, she basically talked me out of it because we even had issues with the front door on the Heritage and that stove DID have the correct pipe/chimney, and the correct length. So, I might just continue to use my little tin foil baffle if needed until I decide to upgrade to the 8" or not. It's only a difference of $ .03 for tin foil or $2,800 for new 8".

The main purpose I started this thread was to give others who may have a six inch chimney already installed a little additional information based on my experience and others burning with the BK 40 as to whether they want to try it with their current setup or upgrade to the eight inch. I will continue to update this as time goes on. After all, I'm only on day 10 with it!

Give me some feedback.

 

Highbeam quoted this on the other thread and it's very insightful:

I also ran a hearthstone heritage and upgraded to a BK. The BK will spill smoke into the room pretty bad when I reload at the time you describe, active coals but cat meter falling out of the active zone. Really, anytime there is much of a fire in the stove I am dang lucky to be able to open the door without smoke spilling. On startup, no smoke enters the room. It's weird. Rather than your tin foil trick, I just put my goofy arm up there across the top of the opening and use my other hand to load. Works the same way.

If your wife not only didn't complain about the smoke but even discouraged your move to 8" to fix it then I would wait. She makes an excellent point about how you would be prettty sad to spend all that money and then still have smoke spillage. It seems to be part of these stoves. Now if it was leaking smoke during the burn with the door closed, or stalling the cat out on low then you have an issue but open door with burning fuel spillage is very common if not normal.

When you look into the stove you will notice that the entrance to the bypass opening is even or maybe lower than the door opening which means that rising smoke can easily find it easier to flow out into the room. I think that is why blocking off the top of the door opening works.

 

I think I'm going to get some thin gauge plate and weld me up something similar to the tin foil as, obviously, it will be much sturdier and rigid.