We picked up a Stihl sh86c blower a few years ago and the easy start has never worked that well. The blower has always been hard to start and the spring never seems to turn it over fast enough. I’ve broken the spring a couple times now after getting frustrated trying to start it. I was wondering if anyone has converted one to normal starting. I found a pulley that can replace the spring start, part# 4241 195 0400. Has anybody swapped this out and been happy or am I better off just replacing the spring?
I have an SH86C and I'm not sure how the spring start would slow down the cranking speed. Once it makes it over compression that first time, it should crank just as fast, if not faster than the plain system. That spring stores energy until there's enough torque present to overcome compression, then it's you + the spring spinning the engine over. EDIT: For those reading along - these are not the same setup as what's in an MS180/210/230/250 Easy2Start. You pull these over like normal rather than the slow smooth pull for the ones on the saws. If I'm not mistaken, some of the newer design small saws (MS181, 211, etc) use this style now too. If your engine is cranky enough to wear out recoil parts, the solution is NOT in the starter assembly. For reference, my SH86 fires on the 3rd or 4th pull consistently, unless I'm a bonehead and don't set the choke properly.
Not yet. Going to put a standard pull start on a Makita 5001 though. They call it 'modification set for starter assy'. I call it probably an inch narrower than the helper starter housing. If I can pull 80CCs with no decomp, I can manage 50 without an aid. The lingering question is whether I can get the correct decal for the assy.
If you’re breaking springs from yanking it that hard, then you are doing it wrong. mince I started the concept behind “easy start” and what it was, it became easier to start.
Have had a few of those various easy starts( aka Never start) contraptions. nough said. Remember the old crank up ones , then fold the handle back down push home and it spin( sometimes) old days, piece of rope with a knot in end wind around pulley and yank always worked unless the knot came undone or rope broke. no springs no pawls simple. back further - hit/miss- just spin fly wheel, in correct direction of course.
The old Briggs contraption that gave them their nickname - Breaks and Scatters! Gawd those were awful. I like the old hit and miss engines that you weren't turning over compression by hand. Prime 'em up, crank it backwards hard up against compression and just as the flywheel begins to rebound, come down on the manual trip lever for the mag. Now THOSE were the days!
But there is springs and pawls in a normal rewind also, personally all my easy start stuff starts easy. My fs56 works flawlessly and my wife can start and use it easily.’purge primer, choke few pulls it fires and is either running or shut off choke and one extra pull.
I have a economy 8 horse that starts that way. Rock it back and forth till it clicks and your off......... usually, depends on how many people are watching.
The old wind up on the push mower when I was a kid , I couldn't count the amount of times Dad had trouble with it. That's probably when I heard my first swear word ; he hated that thing!
Still have a hit miss on one of my pumpjacks. The other was converted to electric some years back due to lack of gas. I have pull started a couple of old Robin beasts with a piece of rope and a chunk of broomstick for a handle.
I converted my nephew's 435e Husqvarna from easy start to regular recoil. He had bought it used and had no idea what the e on the end of the model number meant. Me either. We're all used to bigger saws and after he used it for the summer it broke from drop starting it like a 395. I put aftermarket replacement parts in it and that lasted 6 pulls. I had started it 5 times and he picked it up and the first time he used it it broke. I did some googling and figured out that the e means easy start. We laughed and had a couple beers and I ordered the OEM NON-e starter assembly for him. He's happy now... Most of our family is "big shoulders, small brain" just like me... Actually, it's a nice little saw after the MM and square filed chain.
Pretty sure the ms211 had the slow smooth pull design. We had one of those, only a couple year old saw. You couldn't pull it like a normal saw
My MS180 is that way. If I pull it like a regular saw, it’s a battle. if I load it up and let it do its thing, starts so easy.
Yes, yes and I will do my best to remember to accommodate. It's not much to look at, but has been doing it's job since the mid 70s.