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Where do people come up with this?

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  1. Zack323

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    I'm no genius but 17.4 btu in Douglas Fir compared to 15.3 btu in Lodgepole is NOT 25% more btus. Good ole Facebook Marketplace ad.
     

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    The math doesn't add up and even if it did I'm not sure I'd drop 350 smackeroos just to hear one chord either.
     
  3. Zack323

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    Never trust a man that wants to sell you a "chord" of wood.
     
  4. Erik B

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    It would be music to his ears:thumbs::thumbs::rofl: :lol::rofl: :lol:
     
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    Only thing worse would be a "face chord" :picard: :rofl: :lol:
     
  6. The Wood Wolverine

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    Ask him if it’s a sharp chord or a flat one.
     
  7. Warner

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    Or a guy that does anything g with the blade on his chainsaw.
     
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    Marketing hype. :picard: Maybe it all depends on the btu chart they are referring to..

    The one here in the resources section i respectfully disagree with some of the numbers.
     
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    Ha ha. That’s what I was thinking too.

    Doug Fir is great firewood. But if Doug Fir is $350 a “chord” then I’m rich!! I have around 10 cords of Doug Fir split and stacked - and another 15+ cords of it that I still need to split.
     
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    Maybe the guy also works in the finance dept of the local car stealership.
     
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  11. Zack323

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    I finally cut up that big Doug Fir i previously mentioned. It split like a cheese stick ugh... Literally must have grown in a spiral. Worst wood I ever split. Just a lemon of a tree.
     
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    In all my time cutting and splitting Doug Fir, I have had one Doug Fir that was tough to split. Thing was literally hard as a rock and the grain was spiraled. But man did it burn great.
     
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    Out of 10 rounds, I don't think I got a single nice split. This tree was maybe 26" at the base. On smaller Doug Fir I've found, splits beautifully!
     
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    I agree 100%. Too many variables. I cut three hundred year old doug fir for my house. I get way more heat and burn time, compared to the fir I cut in Washington state.
     
  15. Eric Wanderweg

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    I've often wondered about this myself. Always had a hunch tighter growth rings on the same species meant denser wood and more BTUs.
     
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    Makes sense. I notice how much heavier old douglas fir framing lumber is when i demo stuff. The growth rings are tight too. The framing lumber i scored back in May was like that.
     
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    A lot of the houses we framed needed Doug Fir rafters due to the long spans.
     
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    There’s three knots in a chord
     
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    Actually there is three knots in a chord of would. :rofl: :lol:
     
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    It's my belief that doug fir planted in forests in recent history makes for lesser quality firewood than naturally occurring fir. The firs that get replanted after a harvest have been genetically manipulated for faster growth over the decades, with Weyerhaeuser down to as little as 25 years between planting and harvesting. Faster growth, fatter growth rings, less density. It's the same for all private and publicly owned timber lands.