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BBR at Bunyon

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by Chud, Oct 8, 2023.

  1. Czed

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    I've fixed and run most everything out there
    I have like 25-30 66-95cc saws
    Most always I run ported 266 or 372s with 24" bar's
    But eventually I'll get a 20" bar saw to pack around.
     
  2. RCBS

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    It's pretty Mr. Rogery ...without the charachter that Mr. Rogers had.
     
  3. Czed

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    Lot's of drama in the influencer, YouTube, Facebook, social media chainsaw world.
    I watch abandoned place travel video's on YouTube no drama there.
     
  4. RCBS

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    I've indulged also. Two of my favorites were taken down by their respective channels though. Got started with AbandonedSteve. Just watched one on a chemical lab couple days ago. TheProperPeople, I think it was. Don't care for the ones who make it about themselves rather than the subject at hand.
     
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    Anybody watch "In the Woodyard"? He seems like a pretty good guy.
     
  6. Chud

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    Is Mr obsolete still making videos? I liked watching him use his old saws and talk about them.
     
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    Yep
     
  8. sirbuildalot

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    As someone with a YT channel I can relate to BBR more than some. I don't know BBR personally, or watch his videos for that matter. Not cause I don't like him, I'm just too busy. The few bits and pieces I've seen of a couple videos of his, he seems like a decent guy.

    Getting upset about a YT'er accepting a sponsorship and calling a them a sellout is silly. Put yourself in their shoes. As an example, if you're a mechanic lets say, and a new up and coming tool brand offers to supply you with all new tools and even pay you money on top of giving you new tools, are you going to say "No, I have a duty to X brand"?

    If it's the guys livelihood. why wouldn't he try to maximize his profits? The ad revenue from YT isn't where the money is, its the sponsorship deals and free products. To get offered any of that you have to be a certain size channel which 99% are not. It's the ultimate goal of most YT'ers to get where BBR is. The channels that don't care about the money usually stay pretty small, or burn out and stop making videos. You can bet BBR spent a lot of time making video's for free to get to this point. To hate on him for it is senseless.

    The trend that bothers me as a father and a man with morals are the YT'ers showing there daughters, girlfriends or or wives in skimpy clothing for clicks and views. If anyone thinks making money on YT is easy, you should try it.
     
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    To the first part of your reply, mostly because in his previous videos he talked poorly of Stihl and of the 500i. And then one day magically he is supporting the marketing gurus “Ripsaw“ after they gave him one. And because many are tired of seeing him go from providing wholesome entertainment to providing heavily commercialized and marketed entertainment. As to the last part of your statement, I totally agree
     
  10. sirbuildalot

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    Ah, I see, thank you. I understand better now. Like I said, I don't watch or follow his content. If as a viewer or subscriber I felt the channel creator was being disingenuous or contradictory I'd stop watching and unsubscribe. I can't stand fake people. To add to my earlier post, I have seen first hand channels blow up and they do often change. The success goes to their head just like people who you see in your day to say life. Being a big YouTuber doesn't make one person any better than another. In fact, the channels I tend to enjoy the most are usually smaller and come across as more genuine. Like I said though, they tend to stop because its a hobby, not their income. You'll see trends in YT. Many of the channels see another YT'er have success with an idea and they copy it. A few that come to mind are making your own pond, remote cabin builds, and having female relatives wear yoga pants to split wood. I try to be original and family friendly. Probably why I've stayed a small channel.
     
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    Yep, pretty much gotta watch unskippable ads just to get to a video ad these days. My favorite channel was not revenue motivated (he don't need any money from youtube), but the man who did it all got so busy with his actual job that he just disappeared about 8 moths ago. The videos were of him doing his job. In the beginning his channel was super good. Swearing, non-correct politicalness and an honest window into his world. The cussing and politics went away in attempt to reach more viewers (youtube wants as 'marketable' of stuff as they can get). I want the real stuff, not the stuff that advertisers approve of.

    Another old time favorite of mine is having troubles with demonitization. He doesn't have any politics, swearing or degeneracy of any kind in his vids, but they still found reasons to list him as undesirable to advertisers. Hogwash. Unfortunately I believe youtube is a main source of income for him.
     
  13. sirbuildalot

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    Yeah, I hate to say it, but the original days of YouTube are long over. With the amount of channels there are now, it being a viable way to earn a living, and the algorithm being what it is, channels like you described don't get recommended or pushed at all.
     
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    I find it difficult to watch a lot of videos.
    For instance years ago a respectable machinist had videos using older rock solid machine tools.
    Fast forward and new chineseum machines are in that are hobby grade and every time they are used the full importers (almost said manufacturer!) name is used several times.
     
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    I'm all over the place and skip every single ad. The algorithm has no idea what to do with me, so I still get recommends for low subscriber channels. The guy that disappeared had 3500 when I subd. He had over 80 thousand I think when he stopped posting. I will admit that he did try sponsorship once. Boots. After the initial vid, I never heard him utter another peep about them or any other sponsor products again.

    My own issue with sponsorship or promotional products is that I sometimes watch videos to research them. I don't want nobody fluffing anything up becuase they get to keep it after the review. Some will make disclaimers, but I am sure there are many who do not.
     
  16. sirbuildalot

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    For anyone curious how it works from a creator perspective...

    A channel needs 1,000 subscribers and 4,000 watch hours to become monetized (make any money at all)

    Believe it or not most sources I've read say only .5%, or one half of one percent of all channels actually are monetized. To be monetized in of itself is a huge accomplishemnt

    If you do reach those two metrics, you can apply for the YouTube Partner Program to start earning money from ads run in your videos

    The main way the creator gets paid is from the ads you see on your videos. If you want no ads as a viewer, you can become a YT premium member and pay to have no ads. In that case the creator gets a small percentage of the YT premium money in lieu of ad revenue

    YouTube does a background check of sorts on your channel and approves or denies your application

    If you "make the cut", you get 55% of the ad money, YouTube gets 45%. Hence the "Partner Program". You then are legally obligated to pay taxes on your 55%

    On average a creator might make around $8 for every thousand views a video gets. This varies depending on time of year, what niche or market they are in, etc. So a 100,000 view video might make $800 before the split and taxes

    It may sound like a lot, but I can assure you only the biggest channels usually 100,000 subscribers or more are making any real money from ad revenue, (enough to pay your bills). Small channels are making a few grand a year if they are lucky. Most of that ends up being spent on equipment for the channel like cameras, storage devices, microphones, etc.

    YouTube has become a huge marketing machine. It used to be a place to have a "collection" of random videos. No monetization requirements, very little censorship or structure was in place. It was like the Wild West. The creators had little competition and making money and becoming a large channel were much, much easier.

    Nowadays its a career many people want to pursue. As with any oversaturated market, each creator and channel is not worth as much and the mount of channels drove YT to be able to pay less and push channels less. The creators are making up the difference by going after free products and sponsorships. One sponsorship with a big company can pay more than YT does the entire year in ad money.

    I say all this hoping it makes the whole thing make sense to an average viewer. I don't see it getting any better. If anything the pushing of products will likely only get worse. Amazon affiliates and links, etc, etc.
     
  17. sirbuildalot

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    Who was the channel?
     
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    I get it. Have had some creators explain before. A fellow I'm subbed to in Estonia just about drove himself crazy trying to please the algorithm. He had 3 million plus subs but hit a wall. He was trying all sorts of things to get on the good side of youtube, to no avail. He's gone back to making the videos he wants to make, how he wants to make them and myself and his other viewers are pleased about it.
     
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    Yeah, if YT had their way, every channel would do only product promotion videos, and they'd be daily. 7 days a week. It's tempting cause the money is much better. I did quite a few of videos on things I already owned to get content out there that may help others make an informed decision, and I quickly realized those video's performed very well. People like buying stuff. Videos of me teaching how to do something or how to save money in some way, not so much. YT wants viewers to spend, spend, spend. I wish more big creators did what the guy in Estonia did.
     
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    I love In The Woodyard ! Chris is an awesome guy. Been a huge fan from the beginning. I made a trip from Minneapolis to Appleton for a visit and we filmed 2 episodes while I was there. Very friendly fella' !