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Explain This???....

Discussion in 'The Wood Pile' started by Zack323, Jun 9, 2023.

  1. Zack323

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    How are people finding you in your area? "I've even included pics with a tape measure." of your wood? :eek:
     
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    I’m not seeing where it states how many cubic feet it’s tossed as. I use 180 cubic feet tossed as a cord. Maybe they’re using 180 as a cord, maybe not.
     
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    Per the Craigslist ad: "You are purchasing firewood that is measured by description, not by specific volume. The firewood you are receiving is sold as a 'thrown measure' - that is as if it were thrown into a container, not as if it were stacked. Actual volume may differ depending on how tightly you stack or bundle the wood. Drop off of firewood load indicates acceptance of purchase."
     
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    Yes but it doesn’t say how large the container is.
     
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    I agree with you. I find it confusing more than anything. If you read the Google review, there are greater issues. Just search "Hammond Firewood Denver"
     
  6. Jeffrey Svoboda

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    Are you trying to say that from your experience Craigslist sellers are honest?

    The wording in the ad, especially what Zach just reposted, throws up red flags in my world. Maybe not yours?
     
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    I have never bought cut and split firewood but if I were in the position to I would tell the seller I plan to stack it and measure both the quantity and moisture content. Most all sellers would bail and the good guy would be happy to oblige. At least the ones around here.
     
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    I list on Craigs list and through referrals. I have several regulars, but lost a few last Winter.

    I show the stack of firewood with the tape measure visible...just to clarify. ;)
     
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    No I’m just saying Craigslist sellers are people. Good bad and ugly. It’s a poorly worded somewhat contradictory ad.
    What I read is it’s not sold as a specific volume which taken in context with the rest of the ad seems to imply volume is used as size. A mistake.
    It does go on to imply it’s sold as a tossed cord which does have specific volume. Contradictory by error most likely.
    Red flag not really. Questions yes. I’ve sold wood in tossed measurement. I’m not about to stack wood on my trailer so the buyer can see it before I dump it.
    The only question really is what cubic footage they’re using to measure a tossed cord.
     
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    The seller could easily be saying some people stack wood tighter than others. So what he stacks as 1 cord someone else might get 2/3 or 1 1/4 when they stack it? Maybe customers are super picky in the sellers area? Kinda weird that they are saying once dumped or unloaded you're getting a bill.
     
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    He did imply that. The main point is he doesn’t stack it at all. A common practice. I think that’s the message he tried to convey.
     
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    I really thought that was strange. I never heard of a if it's delivered your stuck with it clause!
     
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    A cord of firewood is not 4’x4’x8’ loose tossed but tightly stacked. That’s what it is. Imagine a sheet of plywood stacked tightly with firewood on it edge to edge 4 feet high. Anyone selling firewood that tries to twist and turn to get out of that very simple definition should be avoided.
     
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    people selling large quantities of firewood never stack it. It’s all measured by loose cord dimensions. 180 cubic feet. Who wants to stack a thousand cord of firewood just to dump it on a truck?
     
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    As a seller, I would have no problem with this (only have 1 guy who doesn’t stack it as it is) but if you were to take a moisture meter to it, it would happen before I dump it.
     
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    we get so many shady sellers around here, it's stupid. I ask what the moisture content is and they say "no need to test it, it's dry".
     
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    I use the sheet of plywood explanation to customers all the time.
     
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    I certainly don’t and that’s why I’m not in the selling business. But people buying it that are buying by the cord want a cord. So there is that. Seems to me if I was in the selling business I would give the customer what the customer expects and wants. Seems pretty simple to me. Near me there is a firewood seller. He has a steel frame welded into his pick up bed with concrete reinforcement mesh between the square 1”x1” bar. He always has it packed tightly with wood for sale. I assume it’s 1 cord. If not, I am sure it is some other easily verified measure. If I was selling I would do what he does. If I ever bought firewood I would certainly consider him.
     
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    I think 75% of buyers don't actually know what a full cord actually means. Fellow firewood hoarders absolutely do but also cut/split/stack for themselves.

    Large volume suppliers should/do have a tossed cordage volume amount but I'll mention that this is also dependent on the size of the splits. Big pieces take up a lot of room while small splits take up less I've found. I think for peace of mind, any that I sell I'll stack it on a pallet knowing they are getting a real cord.
     
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    The customer wants a cord of wood. They get a cord of wood. That’s how simple it is. There’s just more than one way to skin a cat.
    The cage in a pickup truck sounds like a nice method for a hobby. How many times a day do you think you could stack and unload by hand using that cage? Time is money.
    Look at it like farming. You can put a garden in your backyard with a wheelbarrow, hoe and shovel. You want to feed the whole town that operation is no longer is viable.