East Palestine Derailment

We have an ANG base nearby too. They send their fire units to certain calls upon request. One big thing is they have a huge foam pumping truck. We had a fire at a propane yard a while back and that truck was onsite ASAP.

 

So there are a lot of details with things like this. More than likely it was a local call, and there was a mutual aid agreement already in place with that local jurisdiction, so once they got requested they were green light.

Or, the right people made the right calls to the right people at the right time, and permission was given to take that asset to that incident.

The hoops and loops, rules and technicalities can be a pain in the a$$, but they are there because they have to be for jurisdiction, command and control, liability and coverage, and to try to control what would be (more) chaos....and other reasons...

 

So listening to a radio show this morning, someone from the EP area called in and said not only is the local creek dead, there are no birds around since this happened either.

 

that's all I'm trying to say. What agreements have been made or whatever I am not privy to that information.
They had assets they could have called upon and no one did, that is the point I was attempting to make.
Maybe they were called on and denied it, maybe they were not. I really have not seen anyone digging into these questions yet.
It just sounds like a bunch of excuses to me, hoops loops, rules, technicalities, jurisdiction, Since when did Jurisdiction ever stop Uncle Sam? <tongue in cheek sarcasm>

 

By the time they fight in court, I'm sure it will be multiple legal battles, and wind up paying damages and fines. It will have been cheaper to do it right in the first place the only difference is paying out a lot more over 20 or more years or paying a smaller amount right now. Still will be a significant amount.

 

Understand what your saying, and not trying to argue or point fingers. Just saying there's lots behind the scenes that had to line up as well, and that isn't always known or makes sense. Most of what I'm referring to is actually a good thing, to make sure people stay in their lanes, and are covered if something happens. Sometimes the things I'm referring to just get in the way of what seems to be the best approach and common sense. I have seen both sides of the equation.

 

Montreal Maine Atlantic blew up a small town and when the court battle ended they filed bankruptcy and ceased being a railroad. All assets sold. This was a much smaller railroad though, Norfolk may be able to absorb this a little better.

 

they might try to pull a johnson and johnson and spin off a unit for the claims and than have that subsidiary file bankruptcy.

 

People Report Strange Smell, Residue on Cars in Connecticut – NBC Connecticut

 

Dang, call me paranoid but I wouldn't have my kids playing outside right now..

 

Out of caution I'm keeping my kids inside when they come home from school. My younger son is asthmatic and gets sick if he looks at something the wrong way

 

Just watched a vid of a local news reporter throwing rocks in a small creek/stream. When the rock gets to the bottom, it stirs up a large "slick" of something, that is then running down stream on the surface. Appears to have coated the bottom of the creek bed, pretty heavy too. There's a lot of visual bubbles after it already would have normally settled. Pretty nasty.

Then another from a guy living in Massillon OH showing his tap water with a heavy film of crap on top.


I wouldn't be using any water anywhere close to ground zero or from the tributaries fed from the area.

 

Massillon is better than an hour west of EP...really doubt anything is affected there...

 

I'm pretty sure Massillon is in the Tuscarawas River Watershed.

 

It’s on the news it must be true.

 

I'm in massillon right now. Everything looks clear here.

 

The old steel mills did way more damage to the area than this event ever will.

 

So I enjoy being aware of smells. Particularly of fresh air.
Yesterday someone spread hor$e$h!# on a field nearby (town Hall must have opened their doors for a moment), and it was pungent most of the day yesterday. Today, the fresh air smells different, almost a chlorine/bleach-esque smell.
Could be anything, will sniff around later as we head out for errands. If that smell is being widely reported, then I conform it. Otherwise is just me.

 

So they’re already saying it’s unrelated…
https://www.wtnh.com/news/connecticut/toxicologists-aware-of-ashlike-substance-on-connecticut-cars/
I guess a random chlorine smell and particulate accumulations in Connecticut has absolutely nothing to do with the vinyl chloride that went into the atmosphere recently. Mmmmkay. I can’t wait to hear where it actually came from.