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East Palestine Derailment

Discussion in 'Everything Else (off topic)' started by RCBS, Feb 13, 2023.

  1. Well Seasoned

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    damm that is horrible! You all OK?
     
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    Years ago a train derailed not far from us.
    Police were all over anyone trying to take pictures or report anything.
    Supposedly tried stopping people from taking photos off of private roof's.
     
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    Fortunately for me I live north of it and the air quality wasn't much of an issue due to prevailing winds.
    My well will be ok as well. The people living on top of it though, the EPA claims the wells are safe currently..
    They are still being real stingy with any real information, they set up monitoring stations on wells surrounding the area. Hard to say right now if the homeowners are even going to get that information or hear it thru the official channels.
    Ppl are home now though and trying to wade thru this mess and get back to "normal"

    short term affects seem to be over, it's now the long game, how it affects the water table, soil.
    I'm afraid we really won't know how bad this may be until a few years down the road for people. The next 6 months to year, the livestock will be a good indicator of whats to be expected. We know officially they will not tell anyone right away. It usually takes lawsuits for that to happen.
    The river and creeks are not in good shape right now as I think a lot of you know and everyone downstream may want to skip fishing any part of the ohio river.
    I haven't heard of anyone elses livestock dying off since initial weekend.

    Norfolk is already trying to bury the problem and has been called out on it.
    If they don't get the soil removed though the next heavy rains is just going to flush it all thru.
     
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    I should rephrase that, pitted paint from little acid rain drops. there were also pics of dead animals /pets and dead frogs and schools of fish floating on water that, according to the EPA, has not been contaminated.
    Not only is there little reporting but outright lies from government agencies.
    DEspite the "weather" balloons and UFOs being in the news, there's an awful lot of misinformation/missing information with that as well. But the other thread got locked, so I won't go there.
     
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    I just watched a video of a citizen stopping on a small stream bridge. There were a couple trucks stopped along the road and several guys from:
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    netting dead fish/animals (most were not floating) from the water. They wouldn’t interact much in the vid. Was East Liverpool OH.
     
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    Unbelievable! Stay safe, test your own stuff, don't depend on anyone else!
     
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    Not to mention the phosgene gas leaking. Finally heard that today after 10 days and a lot of dead things.
     
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    Get in that old ford and get out of dodge!
     
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    small animals have definitely taken a hit, aquatic is decimated, over 3k dead fish in the one creek alone.
    couple lost their 10 yr old pet cat they think due to this. They were in the evac zone, cat became sick here in the last 2 days.
    Tests came back as congenital heart failure and high liver enzymes. The vet thinks the PVC affected the liver which it does and exacerbated the heart condition.
    I still have not heard anything about the larger livestock, I keep asking around but nothing on that yet.
    (The one crick is a toxic cesspit, the next creek supposedly only has low levels of 2 chemicals and supposedly the ohio river is checking out ok. (<this is what the news is telling us)
    I still haven't heard anything about the paint on cars pitting or peeling. I don't deny it could happen if those vehicles were in the smoke cloud/downwind.
     
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    What a terrible disaster. Really feel bad for all who are, or will be affected by this accident.
     
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    Where the smoke went.

    plume.jpeg
     
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    I can see that being prudent advice…

    company I used to work for tried making a severance package when they laid-off 60% of the workforce. That was like 3500 employees.

    the fine print said “accepting this payment indemnifies said company from any future medical claims for chemicals exposed to…”o_O

    so I can see the railroad doing this very much on the downlow in the fine print.
     
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    Has anyone else thought about how Veterans are being compensated for exposure to cancer causing agents from Camp LeJune going back as far as the 1950's?

    And now the officials are telling the residents that everything is safe for drinking, eating, breathing, living and move back to your residences???

    Yeah, OK! EV's save the environment too, right?

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    I'm not sure i could've said it any better. :handshake:
     
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    brenndatomu and I are within that radius. Albeit far, but still within.
     
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    Fortunately we are upstream and upwind (prevailing winds)
     
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