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Dead black locust tough on a used chain

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  1. buZZsaw BRAD

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    Sharpened a 16" chain on the 261 yesterday and counted six missing teeth.:picard: Dead black locust the last time it was used. Plenty of meat left on them. Ill sharpen until very little metal left.
    IMG_2440.JPG IMG_2442.JPG Guess i should demote this chain. :emb:
     
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    That 261 be makin big power. She just rips the cutters right off the chain! :cool:
     
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    Hang it on the rear view mirror in your truck.
    80's flashback right there!
     
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    I think i mightve lowered the rakers a bit too much! :emb: It is some dense wood. You ever cut any?
     
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    Too much crap already hanging from the mirror including hearing protection. Maybe I could wrap the steering wheel? :rofl: :lol: Better yet get a few and make a steering wheel.
     
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    buZZsaw BRAD was this the loop that had over heated cutters that wouldn't file right?
     
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    No.

    That was a loop of 25", .375, (7/32") file chain. That one i last used it cutting dead ash. (i did run it cutting that TP too) I sharpened it with the normal file yesterday and had to hit some of the teeth with the diamond file. I did freehand it with the diamond file first. That one has maybe 2/3 meat left. Dont run the longer bars that often.
     
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    For sure but only about a handful of times or so. Took down a couple at a buddies years ago. I make sure to stack it all in one pile and save it for cold overnights. Wouldn't mind stumbling across some soon seeing as I'm almost out.
     
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    I was cutting a yard maple, couple years back, and found a clump of metal.....barbed wire, nails, fence staples.....took 8 teeth off an 18" chain. I sharpend the rest, and ran it the next day. The chain made a nice fine powder, and I held the saw with one hand....zero pull, zero cutting. Even pushing it to cut, it just made more powder.

    Sca
     
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    I’ve hit rocks cutting in the dark before :whistle: but didn’t break any teeth off doing it. The only time I can remember knocking teeth clear off a chain was cutting dead BL. I imagine if we had Osage orange to cut around here it would produce similar results.
     
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    Now that you mention it, I’ve only ever broke off cutters in locust as well. HL.
     
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    I must not be trying hard enough. Haven't broken off any teeth.....yet.
     
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    I've only ever broke cutters off in HL, but to be fair, my cutters were small enough, my file was on the back corner of the cutter when I filed it. Any more and I'd have been filing the back edge of the cutter. The chain was done for.

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    I've cut tons of locust with all ages of chain and don't remember breaking off that many teeth. I know it's harder than some other wood, but I didn't think it was that hard.
    Here is some really dry stuff. You can see the huge checks in the end. It was sitting in a pile for years. The rakers are .030-.035" and all the teeth are still there. What chain are you using?

     
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    I’ve seen it a few times with chains at the end of their life.
     
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    I don't remember ever losing any teeth cutting dead black locust, but already have had a newly sharpened or new chain go dull with just a few cuts. Black locust can make for a long day.
     
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    I believe the affected loop is a Stihl chain. I dont normally guage how low the rakers are. When its not biting as good ill give them a couple strokes with the file.

    Like Chud stated ive broken plenty of teeth off well filed chains with minimal meat left.
     
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    I have cut a lot of locust, hickory, and ironwood. Never lost a tooth. You blast a rock or chunk of steel in a round?
     
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    No metal or rocks hit. Very little meat left on the affected chain (see pics in OP) and i was a bit agressive in lowering the rakers. Plus im not shy about leaning on the saw sometimes. The BL i cut had to be 4-5 years on the ground with the bark gone. Big difference between green BL and dead/down barkless.
     
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