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Felling Recommendations

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  1. Ralphie Boy

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    Correct
     
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    That looks like a good plan, however, the back cut looks to be a bar pincher.
     
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    Here's my idea. Can the far left twin be conventionally felled in the line of sight in the photo? Another words away from the photographer?
    Cut that clean off the tree even if it stays hung up. Slice logs or sections off like you would a conventional hang up until its on the ground. Repeat for second section. Fell last tree as you normally would???
    What is the DBH of them? Dont look that big.
     
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    Not more than 15" if that much.

    I'm thinking of cutting the leaner close to the ground and let it slide off the stump, then rope it and pull it down with my U.L.A.V.
     
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    Not advice, but my way on 15" trees would be to wrap a known good chain around each one to catch the barber chair.
    No notches, start with the lower one and cut it until it either falls or loads on the other one. Expect them to pop before going over.
    Then cut the other one.
     
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    Sounds like a safer plan. :yes: Safer is gooder! Be sure to post pics.
     
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    That’s why you make a wide front notch. You’ll be surprised to see what will happen. Angle your backcut downward as opposed to upward and it won’t pinch your bar. It will actually move off of your bar. You will not be making a hinge. You will be cutting all the way through to intersect the front notch apex. Since the tree is leaning and supported up top on the second tree you will not have tension in the trunk to potentially cause a barber chair. (But it would certainly be the safe thing to do to wrap a separate chain or strap around for good measure.) The trunk will hop forward and then plant right into the ground and stay there. Then it’s all strap and pulling. This is how to handle this situation. Maybe someday if I encounter this situation again (and I’m sure sooner or later I will) I’ll make a video and post it.
     
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    There isn’t a safer way than what I proposed. I’ve done this several times after learning from a pro.
     
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    I think Chud has got the right idea. Get a line above the mid-point of the tree if possible. To be safe you'll need leverage in the fell direction. Idk if you have a throw bag or a line long enough or rated for this but it's the safest way to go about it. As Chud said, learn your hitches/knots and if you don't like the way it looks walk away from it. You've got nothing to prove if you're staying alive.
     
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    These threads just amaze me.

    It is fair to say that most on this forum have marginal felling experience. If you were very proficient you wouldn't be asking for advice on dangerous trees.

    My advice is just leave it be, gravity will never forget about it and it will fall down eventually.

    It is not worth getting yourself hurt or killed on something that doesn't matter.
     
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    certainly wise advice. I’ve walked away from plenty of leaners in the woods. As you say nature has a tendency to deal with them in its own time.

    that being said as one progresses from an inept feller to a very proficient feller they must be educated which is synonymous with advice. Or they will have to learn on their own through trial and error. There are no other choices. Perhaps Ralphy is at the point where he feels he can deal with this but is seeking further wisdom.
    FWIW I’m not a proficient feller. I’m learning and have sought advice before.
     
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    I just re read every post. I have felled trees for 40 years. I missed in the first post they are both “dead”.
    That’s another full can of worms right there. I don’t trust my hinge on real dead trees.

    I am going to say back off and let mother nature do her thing or borrow a huge end loader and push em over.
    Black cherry in my woods has a very shallow root system they should push easy with some geometry and horsepower.

    out
     
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    Safety is always first, you are correct. I know how I'm going to put 'em down, I wanted to see how others would handle this type of problem.
     
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    Lol, yes it’s humorous how some threads become pipe swinging contests. I agree that if there’s doubt walk away. Without seeing it in person no one knows for sure how to handle the situation. It’s spitballing a picture. I knew several people who died doing this work. Qualified and not. Sometimes you live and learn from mistakes and sometimes you don’t, so it’s best to eliminate as much risk as possible if you choose to do it.
     
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    A few weeks ago I had a friend and his son over for morning coffee. We used to shoot a lot of sporting clays at a private club we belonged to, the son was in medical school 23 years ago and had since became a general surgeon.

    2 Years ago the son was doing some sort of chainsaw work on their hobby farm, I don't know exactly what and I didn't ask. He had an accident rendering him blind in one eye and compromised in the other. He no longer practices medicine and he is 47 years old.
     
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    Here’s the thing to remember about advice: Ask for it and you’ll get it. Get it and you don’t have to take it.
     
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    You can slip and knock yourself senseless just getting out of the bathtub too...I used to work with a guy on the weekends that was a career cop...a good one too...he fell off a ladder while cleaning the gutters one day...he was only 3' off the ground, but hit his head and had to retire on disability, he had the mentality of about a 5-6 YO after that.

    I agree that a person needs to know his/her limits, but no harm in at least asking for input from other knowledgeable folks too! Might learn something!
     
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    X2. Very well put Joe!
     
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    Seems like we are over thinking it, if he has a vehicle capable of it pulling it down it takes all the guess work out of it and it's safer.
     
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    Wow different approaches here; if alive I would put a big face cut in the tree that is caught up in and then take down the leaner to knock them both over.

    without hearing protection so you can hear when the tree starts talking. Cracking and before it lasts go.