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Leaf Blowers

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by ReelFaster, Nov 8, 2022.

  1. ReelFaster

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    Possibly in the market, not loyal to any one particular brand. Although I loved my Echo before I sold it for a more powerful Stihl, both were handheld models. Handheld just isn't cutting it for the yard but is great for tighter spots and the front of the home. Also the Stihl chainsaw so graciously given to me has been utterly flawless. Both Stihls have been excellent to me.

    Looking for a backpack blower, my yard (which backs to the woods) gets a TON of leaves. Tons of big tall trees on the property. Need to blow/move large piles of leaves, tired of raking and tarping want to just blow back into the woods. Not sure if anyone has recommendations or is a landscaper. Thanks in advance!
     
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    I would go with whatever blower has the highest cubic foot air displacement. They all seem to be reliable but volume of air is key.
     
  3. buzz-saw

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    For what it's worth.

    I have a Stihl BR600 and would never buy another one.
    That 4-mix nonsense just doesn't do it for me.

    I am actually sitting here looking at the carb for it sitting on my desk.

    It loses power when hot and the only thing I have not done is rebuild the carb. It has new fuel lines , tank vent , filters , crank seals , valves adjusted ( a valve adjustment on a blower = come on ; really ?? ) and it just keeps getting worse.

    My vote is for anything but Stihl with a 4-mix motor.

    EDIT : Spark arrestor has been deleted and a new spark plug and air filter.
     
  4. The Wood Wolverine

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    I was curious on these and all the reading I did pointed me in the direction of an Echo. It's been 8-10mo ago, never did pull the trigger.
     
  5. buzz-saw

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    If I am not mistaken, someone told me that the new Echo was the best bang for the buck.
    Had the most power and air flow putting it on top.

    If I can't get mine to stay running, I might have to go shopping.
     
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    Just go for air flow. The commercial sizes are best. If you get a ’homeowner’ model you will regret it. I have a husky and love it but I’m prejudiced. Stihl, Echo, Husky all have good ones.


    Mike in Ok
     
  7. Chud

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    I have had a br600 for 10yrs or more with no issues. Never pulled the screen and it’s burned a smorgasbord of mix oils. If it ever gives up I’ll try the 7,or 800.
     
  8. ReelFaster

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    Great great stuff guys, thanks so much!!!

    My bro in law just bought the new Echo beast I think it's the 9010, over 1100cfm, monster!! He offered to let me borrow and try out, I might just take him up on it. I was looking at the Echo 770t good balance of mph and cfm.

    buzz-saw good info on the Stihl BR-600 it's actually one I was looking at. I've been leaning Echo but just doing my homework they are pricey but getting older and my time is becoming more valuable. This is a daunting task each fall.

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    As we get older our time is more valuable. We also try to work smarter, not harder to get the job done.
     
  10. MikeInMa

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    I have a Toro electric handheld, and lots of extension cords.

    It does fine by me. I just blow them to the tree line and into the woods.
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    I don't know how you do it. I hate extension cords and do everything I can to avoid them.
     
  12. MasterMech

    MasterMech The Mechanical Moderator

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    I too have a Stihl BR600. Dang thing is near 20 years old now, as mine is from the first year they were available IIRC. Very, very hard to find a better value for the price. Quieter, lighter, and comfy compared to some more powerful competitors.

    Looking for ultimate power? Many blower mfgs are switching to "Newtons" for rating blowers, an actual unit of force, go figure. MPH and CFM each tell about a third of the whole story, respectively. More of either is better but not at the expense of one or the other. MPH generally moves the tough stuff (wet leaves, matted down, etc) and CFM is how big a pile you can move.
     
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    Sorry yours isn't treating you well. It's been a while for me and the 600 has changed a bit over the years. But have you looked at the coil? Those symptoms are classic for a failing ignition system.

    I may be the only technician that actually LIKED the 4-mix. Different, yes. A couple more maintenance points over a two-stroke, yup. Adjusting valves on a 4-mix is so simple and fast, we used to do it for free, no wait, at the dealership because it keeps the engine starting and running like it should and resulted in a much better customer experience. You really only should have to adjust valves 1x-2x on a 4-mix. Once on break-in, the second time perhaps after several hundred hours of runtime.

    I'll take a 4-Mix any day over the JUNK 4-strokes that popped up in the consumer space. Think Ryobi, Troy-Bilt, etc.
     
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    Quieter and lighter is what keeps me interested in the BR600.
     
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    There are more powerful blowers these days but I'm not sure the return on investment is there for a homeowner, even one with demanding cleanup work. The more powerful models are larger, heavier, and thirstier. I know plenty of landscapers that ran 600's for day to day and only broke out the big BR800's or Redmax units for leaf cleanup season with several weeks of accumulation and where time is big $$$.

    The 600 destroyed sales of 5-6HP wheel-blowers for us at the dealership. You had nearly as much power and a much more versatile tool for homeowners AND commercial use. Used to sell through a pallet of them in a matter of days when they were in season. When I lived in NY, I lived deep into an Oak forest. Surrounded on 4 sides by mature Red Oaks. The 600 was the weapon of choice for clearing the .95 acre lot. I could push everything out of the garden beds in a couple minutes, then mow the lawn with a mulching mower, grinding up light to moderate leaf cover, or if things got heavy, it was just a matter of opening the throttle on the 600 and keeping it fed as I could push leaves fairly easily the 250'-300' back to the rear property line and woods.
     
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    They haven’t outlawed leaf blowers in jersey yet?
     
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    I just pulled out the ol' Powermate walk behind blower yesterday. Flea market score for $50, needed a new wheel and a carb cleaning. Been trouble free ever since.
     
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    I suppose if I had a larger area to clear, I'd look at other options.
     
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    Hey no need to be sorry. Things happen.

    I don't think it is a coil. It just lays over as if it runs out of fuel under full power , if I let off back to idle most of the time it stays running. If it does stall it will restart one pull but just doesn't like to be at full throttle.
    The valve adjustment was easy , I was actually curious what was inside there being an engine guy so it was kind of interesting , actually maybe sort of cute being so small compared to what I normally work on. Looks like a mini small block chevy rocker arm.

    I will keep working on it and figure it out.
     
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    There were issues with the very early units and the fuel line design. They literally were running out of fuel, especially if they had less than half in the tank. There have been a couple official revisions over the last 15+ years so maybe a conversation with your dealer at the parts counter and making sure yours has any updates would help.