Well, my neighbor who contracted the loggers i thought I might use, is in a battle of will. His primary reason to harvest, was to open up his woods for access to get firewood. part of his contract was that no “firewood “ was to be taken. The forester who brokered the sale told them several times, that no additional wood was to be taken. Neighbor noticed the cutoff pile was not getting bigger. He inquired were the wood went. They admitted to taking it “for a friend “. They also said they “hadn’t read the contract” they can’t remember how much firewood they took out. He confronts them every day to determine how much they took and expects compensation. They are stalling thinking they will wear him down. disappointed to hear this, but with the amount it appears i will be cutting, i may just advise the forester to put it out for bid and eliminate them from the list. I certainly want my tree tops and cutoff and don’t want to deal with watching them.
Sounds like some pulp will be needed to make paper to put some legal fun into play. There's a contract, and they broke it. Ignorance won't get them out of legal trouble.
Might be able to look at the stumps and figure out how much is gone. What a disappointing situation. But if it would have been me, I would never have relied on what is written in a contract to be communicated to workers. I would tell them face to face. Because it was important to this seller.
I'd run from the forester also. I've dealt with good and bad foresters. That forester should be crawling all over those loggers. He surveyed it or should have. He would know by the stumpage if he is worth his salt.
This answer, hound the forester till he comes up with a reasonable figure. Then ask him if he'll be providing the firewood out of his cut, or the loggers. It should be delivered within a day since it never should have left the property. Stop the machines until it's delivered, and keep the equipment on site till the check clears the bank.
Theft of marketable lumber and wood is compensated in court at 3-5 times the current value, depending on the state. Every party involved should know this. The physical wood showing up cut to length and stacked would be significantly less than what a court will set the cost. Does the neighbor have any witnesses to the confession of theft? Id call the sheriff and see bout getting all the equipment impounded as evidence.
I would absolutely eliminate them from future consideration. I like this strategy. Thief is a thief, that’s stealing. Don’t let ‘em get away with it.
I wouldnt hire the guy. Ive done jobs where i want the wood, but they state they want it. I cut it to their size, get paid and go on my way.
Yeah, the forester told them a few times, in addition to the contract. He told me this morning the logger is going to pay. Their position to him was that they paid for the entire tree when they bid. Fair enough, but the contract they agreed to, stated no firewood. I presume they should have bid accordingly. Now, if they have some processor that can handle things larger than I want to mess with, I would prefer they take that stuff and make use of it. Good for the economy, and folks who need firewood delivered. I will talk with them about that.
Another consideration that is kind of backwards to our scrounger mentality is that leaving some or lots of slash is good organic 'fertilizer' for the forest growth. Including big logs. Of course, we want to get them!
breach of contract, stop work order until it is resolved. Get a restraining order. No need to play their games. You are in control.
Redneckchevy Sorry, bear hunter is from Indiana, as am I. I was pointing out my town and State on the photo.
