Least they could do is let it be full first..

Sometimes your credit card will show the hold the gas station puts on your card when you swipe it. You can't go over that hold unless you start the process over again. It's just the software the gas station has and how they are set up. Cumberland Farms puts a $1 hold on my card but it doesn't stop the pump. Darn computers.

 

We have several Marathon stations here. I have their member app, saves .05 /gal. You also earn points too. I have a few .50 off I can use.
Pump didn't shut off yesterday. Filled up truck, got 10 gallons for mower and splitter, 2.5 gals mix for trimmers. All reg 87 oct.
3.99/ gal member price.
My truck drinks it when hauling log/ tractor on dump trailer.
Glad we aren't using the F350 with 460 in it...
We got it a couple yrs ago. Still need to do some work on it...

 

My setup was discussed at length recently, probably just easier to point you here
Even the EV guy gets it..

We're pretty rural, the nearest big city (32,000) and interstate access is 30 miles and we seem to be getting along just fine, but I agree EVs may not work well for everyone. However, I'd venture to guess that the vast majority of people travel less than 200 miles a day and that is easily doable in an EV.

I have no idea what JD's sales expectations are but I highly doubt they would have put the money into R&D if they didn't think they would at least get it back. Are you referring to the fully autonomous tractor? How sweet (and efficient) would it be to set your tractor up in a field to do 6 hours of work while you got to go do something else? I'm not a farmer so I have no idea how practical that is but I don't think JD would have bothered to develop it if there wasn't at least some demand.

Again, no experience here but I could envision some sort of hybrid tractor with a battery that could be plugged in when not in use. You could start the day with a full charge and there would be a diesel powered generator that could recharge the battery or supply electricity on demand as the tractor was operating. The Chevy Volt follows this design. It is unlike any other EV in that the ICE is a generator and does not drive the wheels of the car directly. Part of the reason why Prius and other hybrids are so efficient is that they have a battery powering an electric motor to help accelerate from a stop and then the ICE, which is tuned for max efficiency (Atkinson cycle) kicks in once the vehicle is moving. Diesel/electric power plants have been the norm for some time in the railroad industry because power transmission is greatly simplified, they are more efficient and require less maintenance. Why bother?...the "issue" is ICE are somewhere between 20-30% efficient at putting the power where it needs to be for transportation while electric motors are 80-90%. ICE are so inefficient at putting power to the ground that burning diesel or gas in an engine that is tuned to produce max electricity in a generator that supplies an electric motor nets significant efficiency gains.

 

I am and it's not and I'll leave it at that. A 6 hour duty cycle time don't work and never will and the asking price of $225,000.00 is insane too. My typical field day is 12 hours+

You don't need to think about it at all, I just told you.

 

LOL, Yes, clearly this tractor will never work for you, I have no doubt about it.

 

Well said Dave….

 

One thing is highly probable, John Deere more than likely qualified for some sort of grant to "research the feasibility" of a electric tractor instead of pouring the $$ into R&D for it themselves.


Here ya go corncob

House cost was at least $25,000.


Vehicles costs totaled

vehicle one .......... $50,614 plus tax of 5.5% comes out to almost $53,400.

vehicle two .......... $51469 plus tax comes out to almost $54,300.

Now remember, these are the real world costs .....the up front $$$ that is needed to obtain the vehicles and the solar system for the house, according to what DaveGunter posted in the above link. . If you owe enough taxes, you can get part (up to 26%) of these "costs" back in the form of a federal tax credit.....but figuring that tax credit into the purchase price is and can be deceptive. The credit is only for federal taxes, not state taxes also.

 

If you saw the payments I make on farm equipment, you'd faint. Far as JD getting subsidized by the government, that is a non starter, always been on the government dole, in fact they all are to a certain extent.

I don't lease equipment either, I don't believe in leasing, never have.

Of course I don't 'bleed green' either. Never have. I do own one piece of green equipment and it's been basically trouble free.

Today, there is no money in farming, it's become like being a big truck owner operator, you provide yourself a job you'll never get rich from. You will make yourself a comfortable living, but that is about it. We are lucky in the fact that we made wise investments and the farm and all the ground is paid for. None of that would have come about if we hadn't both worked full time jobs and retired with good pensions.

Very few farmers I know of are 'full time' farmers, they all work a day job too. I'm lucky being retired so now I can 'farm' full time or part time, whatever I prefer.

 

I know plenty of farmers , some full time and some part time that grow cash crops . Hard work for sure as I have been a hired hand .
There are a few near me with hundreds of acres that just signed up for the solar farm . They got $1000/acre for a 20 year lease . That’s not to shabby at all .

 

$1000/acre x 20 years? Or just $1000/acre one time, and now they are locked into the lease for 20 years?

 

Sounds like that price of solar just took an increase.....

 

$1000 per acre per year for 20 years . They just finished the largest solar farm in Michigan near me . Last I heard was just over 2100 acres .

 

And those tax credits are paid by someone!

 

Idk about that but I’m sure there’s some government subsidies involved .

 

I spent today with a Deere dealer and will tomorrow. Salesman are complete bullchitters when you talk to them. GM’s know that you know what’s what when you talk to them and you get a straight answer. You pretty much have it figured out! When that tractor starts in the morning it may be asked to plow for the next 40 hours straight ahead because the weather is good and fields have to be planted or harvest time and we have a window to work in. Some just plain can’t see past the end of their noses.

 

And now that’s land not producing crops for food that you may need to eat. Is it really a good plan?

 

And again someone has to pay those subsidies. The government has no money of its own.

 

Some in Washington seem to think so!
It's one thing to use "set aside" ground for solar field, or untillable ground (although that has usefulness too...when its not shaded) but using fertile farm land for solar is just dumb, dumb-as-a-post dumb...not that I can blame the individual land owner, if he is just scratching by farming, and then here come the golden eggs from the solar folks...

 

Took a little bit of a scenic tour on my way home from the county today. Going through Medway, an area rich into logging like next door to Millinockett and east Millinockett where there were once 2 huge paper mills, the golden road, Gerald Pelletier who American Loggers show was based on but that’s another story, basically town built and supported by wood. Well “Ban” Roxanne Quimby who likes to just buy large plots of productive wood lands gave tons to the government that was turned into more of a you can’t do this or that than anything destroyed a good portion of town. Today I saw they were clearing good wood off good land and a solar company sign at the entrance. FML! It will never produce enough to pay for itself, they charge power companies 4x the going rate and my power bill goes to subsidize their inefficient means of providing electricity.