What is the formula for tossing splits onto a trailer or something versus stacking it. I have used 200/128 (or inverted depending on how you are converting) but I have also seen a numerator of something around 180 or 184. Like, say, 180/128. Of course this is all subjective because it depends on the size of the splits really. So, if it’s 200, that means tossed splits require 200 cu ft instead of 128. Or 180 if that is the number. What do you think it is? So if you have a trailer that would hold exactly one cord of split wood you could toss it on and apply the formula and determine how much wood it is? Like, multiply it by 128/180? Or whatever fraction of a cord the trailer holds, you could multiply it by that and determine how much wood is on there. How do you figure it? Tossing is sure faster.
Here's what I did when I bought my dump truck years ago. I stacked a cord and tossed it in. I then took spray paint and marked where it filled it to. Been filling it to that point for 12 years now. But to answer your question, the most commonly used number is 128 stacked cubic feet will equal 180 thrown in cubic feet. This comes out spot on with wood that is 16" in length and split somewhat small (3"-5" across on average)
I’ve seen the 180 number used by a local firewood company Works out to be about 71% for what ever volume you measure loose. I haven’t done the measure loose to stacked to verify. But 70% is the number I use to estimate the amount I have in a pile. Treat it like half an ellipsoid, find that volume and take 70% of that.
Here's maine law: A-2. Fuel wood, when sold loose and not ranked and well stowed, shall be sold by the cubic foot or loose cord, unless other arrangements are made between the buyer and seller. When sold by the loose cord, the wood in any cord shall average either 12 inches, 16 inches or 24 inches in length. When so sold, the volume of the cords shall be: A cord of 12 or 16 inches in length shall mean the amount of wood, bark and air contained in a space of 180 cubic feet; and a cord of wood 24 inches in length shall mean the amount of wood, bark and air contained in a space of 195 cubic feet.
That's what I'd do, take a known cord of wood, toss it in maybe level it off and mark it. Sent from my LE2127 using Tapatalk
New Hampshire does as well. from the interweb How do you figure wood by the cord? In New Hampshire there is only one legal way to sell wood, and that is by the full cord. A cord of wood measures 4 feet wide x 4 feet tall x 8 feet long. This is true regardless whether the wood is in log length, 4-foot bolts, or cut and split. The smaller the pieces of wood, the more compact the wood piles and the more wood fiber is actually in the pile. The amount of “shrinkage” when the wood is bucked and/or split is highly variable, depending on the size of the logs and how straight they are. Small, cracked logs cannot be piled very efficiently and will have a lot of air (space between the logs) in the pile. When these logs are cut, split, and piled, the pile might add up to only half of the original volume. Moreover, it takes a lot more effort to cut and split a cord of small wood than to cut and split a cord from larger logs. There are some rules of thumb. There about 2 cords (log length volume) to 1,000 board feet of logs. A tri-axle log truck holds 6,000 to 7,000 board feet of logs. That would come out to about 13 (log length) cords per tri-axle truckload. Once it is cut and split, the wood will be much more compact — as much as 25%. So you might get 9 actual cords of wood from a tri-axle truckload of logs, or a pile of firewood, cut to 16-inch lengths, 4 feet high, 4 feet wide, and about 200 feet long. Actual yield will vary depending on the material in the load and how well it is packed.
I'm not sure why I think it's weird/wild /crazy to think they need to /should regulate how firewood is sold........ I mean, not like the guvment is into regulations and rules and such......
I'm sure many years ago the state attorney general(s) got tired of people calling them complaining about "XYZ Firewood" sold me a cord, but it's actually only 1/2 - 2/3 - 3/4 (pick a number) cord. That's why many (most?) states don't allow "face cord" as a legal measurement...how much wood is in a "face"? Well, depends on how long the wood is...the whole thing gets messy fast if there aren't very specific definitions
I always use 2/3 of a thrown pile would equal a stacked amount. So 180 cf thrown pile would equal 120cf if stacked....180×2/3=120
You'd think people would be of mind enough to state what amount of wood they're selling (as in I have this kind of truck with this size bed and I stackt/toss it in), and the buyers would ask. You show up with the amount of wood and say it's $x. Either the person agrees and buys, or they don't. No one here ever asked how much a cord.costs, or fraction of a cord. Most everyone here is based on a truck (or trailer) load. If someone around here is selling based on a cord, they're probably trying to pull one over on the buyer, betting that 99% don't know what a cord really is. Never sold wood based on "x amount" of a cord. Told the buyer what size truck I had and what they could expect. Either they wanted it or not. I have no idea if VA has a law on it, and don't care, I wouldnt have done different cause I'm selling a load, not a cord.
While I have bought a cord or cords of logs I have never purchased processed fire wood. I asked one guy I bought a log load off of “how many cord in the load?” His answer was I don’t know stack it and let me know.” Lol
Haha I like his answer. That's the kind of answer people around here would give/get...but probably nicer.
Ohio allows firewood in the .gov funded HEAP (home energy assistance program), so we have similar laws on sales of wood for home heating purposes. Now, you can sell recreational burning type wood or cooking wood in any manner you want. I sort of get it, but I have to say, I'm surprised they don't specify a BTU standard per cord. Natural gas, propane or oil are all a known quantity. Someone could cut, split and sell willow for heating as long as it is 128 cu feet and be just fine.
